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    Re: Rep. Weiner Wigs Out on Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    That would be good news. Funding is nice (if it actually happens)

    Am not that familiar with reading through a congressional bill. Do you know where the section is that actually breaks down the $7,000,000,000? With a sum of that amount would guess/hope/pray there is some specific accounting of just how they arrived at that number....


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    All the funding is under Subtitle D.

    The annual cost is broken out at the top.

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    (2) FUNDING- Out of any money in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, there shall be deposited into the Fund for each of fiscal years 2012 through 2020 (and the last calendar quarter of fiscal year 2011)--

    `(A) the Federal share, consisting of an amount equal to the lesser of--

    `(i) 90 percent of the expenditures in carrying out this title for the respective fiscal year (initially based on estimates, subject to subsequent reconciliation based on actual expenditures); or

    `(ii) $71,000,000 for the last calendar quarter of fiscal year 2011, $318,000,000 for fiscal year 2012, $354,000,000 for fiscal year 2013, $382,000,000 for fiscal year 2014, $431,000,000 for fiscal year 2015, $481,000,000 for fiscal year 2016, $537,000,000 for fiscal year 2017, $601,000,000 for fiscal year 2018, $672,000,000 for fiscal year 2019, and $743,000,000 for fiscal year 2020; plus

    `(B) the New York City share, consisting of the amount contributed under the contract under section 3331(d).
    There are also some spending limits for the administrative activities.

    `(2) WTC HEALTH PROGRAM SCIENTIFIC/TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE- For the purpose of carrying out section 3302(a)--

    `(A) for the last calendar quarter of fiscal year 2011, $25,000;

    `(B) for fiscal year 2012, $100,000; and

    `(C) for each subsequent fiscal year, the amount specified under this paragraph for the previous fiscal year increased by the percentage increase in the consumer price index for all urban consumers (all items; United States city average) as estimated by the Secretary for the 12-month period ending with March of the previous year.

    `(4) UNIFORM DATA COLLECTION- For the purpose of carrying out section 3304 and for reimbursing Data Centers (as defined in section 3305(b)(2)) for the costs incurred by such Centers in carrying out activities under contracts entered into under section 3305(a)(2)--

    `(A) for the last calendar quarter of fiscal year 2011, $2,500,000;

    `(B) for fiscal year 2012, $10,000,000; and

    `(C) for each subsequent fiscal year, the amount specified under this paragraph for the previous fiscal year increased by the percentage increase in the consumer price index for all urban consumers (all items; United States city average) as estimated by the Secretary for the 12-month period ending with March of the previous year.
    And other payments and reimbursements scattered throughout.

    (A) CLINICAL CENTER FOR FDNY RESPONDERS IN NEW YORK- The Clinical Center of Excellence for FDNY Responders in New York specified in subsection (b)(1)(A) shall be reimbursed--

    `(i) in the first year of the contract under this section, $600 per certified eligible WTC responder in the medical treatment program, and $300 per certified eligible WTC responder in the monitoring program; and

    `(ii) in each subsequent contract year, subject to paragraph (3), at the rates specified in this subparagraph for the previous contract year adjusted by the WTC Program Administrator to reflect the rate of medical care inflation during the previous contract year.

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    Re: Rep. Weiner Wigs Out on Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    So, the Democrats are showing their love for illegal immigrants so much that they were willing to ditch the 9/11 responders on the side of the road to show illegals that the Dems support them...

    Of course, this is just another example of how the Dems want it their way or the highway, enacting procedures in an effort to prevent ANY INPUT at all from Republicans. SOP for the Dems... we all know that...
    Actually, there never was a discussion of illegal immigrants when debating the bill. The Republicans wanted to add the "poison pill" amendment because they knew it would anger Hispanics, a key Democratic constituency.

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    Re: Rep. Weiner Wigs Out on Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Actually, there never was a discussion of illegal immigrants when debating the bill. The Republicans wanted to add the "poison pill" amendment because they knew it would anger Hispanics, a key Democratic constituency.
    At the same time, it is a reasonable amendment and one I support wholeheartedly...
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    Re: Rep. Weiner Wigs Out on Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    At the same time, it is a reasonable amendment and one I support wholeheartedly...
    What makes is reasonable?

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    Re: Rep. Weiner Wigs Out on Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    What makes is reasonable?
    Because they are illegally in the United States and illegal immigrants should not be receiving taxpayer provided services...
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    Re: Rep. Weiner Wigs Out on Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Because they are illegally in the United States and illegal immigrants should not be receiving taxpayer provided services...
    Why would someone who here illegally jeopardize being deported by asking for services? They wouldn't, the amendment is phony and the Republicans know damn well it is.

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    Re: Rep. Weiner Wigs Out on Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Why would someone who here illegally jeopardize being deported by asking for services? They wouldn't, the amendment is phony and the Republicans know damn well it is.
    Which is why illegal immigrants are able to take advantage of government services on a daily basis.... If it is such a non-issue, why did the Democrats oppose it?
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    Re: Rep. Weiner Wigs Out on Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    So, the Democrats are showing their love for illegal immigrants so much that they were willing to ditch the 9/11 responders on the side of the road to show illegals that the Dems support them...

    Of course, this is just another example of how the Dems want it their way or the highway, enacting procedures in an effort to prevent ANY INPUT at all from Republicans. SOP for the Dems... we all know that...

    Exactly! Demo's like Weiner are such liars....Hannity embarrassed him on the radio show Friday...It was funny as hell....


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    Re: Rep. Weiner Wigs Out on Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    At the end of the day, 9-11 first responders are left without health care and Republicans are the ones who voted it down.
    At the end of the day, 9-11 first responders are left without health care and Democrats are the ones who chose to assure that would happen rather than deny illegal immigrants an entitlement program.

    See, I can over simplify the situation to use as a partisan attack too! How fun!

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    parlimentary procedure required republican assistance for the bill
    watch this and see:
    True of False; the parlimentary procedure was not required and was put in place by the choice of the Democrats?

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    Re: Rep. Weiner Wigs Out on Republicans

    This whole thing is really simple, and shows the sad state of Politics in this country.

    Democrats forced a procedural change to require a 2/3rds vote, in hopes of either passing this and being able to get the publicity while using the Republican's illegal arguments against them in November or it not passing and being able to paint the Republicans as uncaring about 9/11 individuals and the "party of no".

    Republicans wanted to add an amendment to keep funding of this from going to illegal immigration because its a big issue with their base and would help for 2010 and if it was shot down would allow them to paint democrats as caring more for illegals than 9/11 rescurers.

    In both cases the political posturing is blatantly evident and frankly disgusting. If this was ONLY about passing legislation to help the 9/11 survivors Democrats wouldn't have done the 2/3rds gimmick in the first place.

    Neither side is more or less guilty in this. Could the Republicans had just gone along and given the votes despite their reservations about illegals? Absolutely. But that only mattered because Democrats choose to force a 2/3rds vote specifically to avoid the illegals. Had they not done that it would've also passed. Democrats played political games, at the cost of 9/11 first responders. Then Republicans played political games, at the cost of 9/11 first responders. Its pathetic for indivduals on either side to narrowly focus their hypocritical rage, as all it shows is that they are no different then those politicians that were involved in this...that they don't give a damn about the 9/11 first responders, caring only for what political points they can score off this.

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