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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    How is Arizona checking to see if you are here legally and have any warrants out for your arrest after you have been pulled over for some traffic offense a violation of your rights?
    See the Fourth Amendment.

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Robert Krentz was murdered in March.

    It's an emergency.
    That's not the judge's problem. That's the state's problem for not doing this for the last 30 years so that the challenges could be out of the way by now.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No.

    We put lethal ordnance on the border, under the control of the United States Army, not the weekend warriors (aka National Guard) or the cops. Rocks are deadly weapons, enemies assualting citizens with rocks should be fired upon.

    We keep our eyes open and fine and imprison employers of invaders.

    You can pretend you haven't read my posts, that's not my problem.

    What happens in Mexico isn't my problem so long as what happens in Mexico STAYS in Mexico.

    It's that simple. The borders closed, the enemies within adressed and jailed and deported as appropriate.

    Life isn't complicated unless someone it lying.
    Why on Earth do you want the military involved in a law enforcement matter?
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    See the Fourth Amendment.
    So when the police pull you over for some traffic violation it is a violation of the 4th if they check to see if you have any warrants, here legally or if you have insurance and vehicle registration?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    what does it matter, the law will be declared unconstitutional.
    Hey, if the 9th curcuit rules against this law, I have a great feeling about this law's chances in the Supreme Court given the record of the 9th circuit. Totally not surprised the 9th circuit court of appeals is delaying this ... they will hold this on as long as possible...
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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by rudygetsplenty View Post
    Can't much argue with you. If a man only cares about himself, there is no point explaining to him why he should care about others.
    But I do care about others.

    I don't care about Mexico.

    Their country, their problem.

    My oath of enlistment didn't include protecting Mexico, only the United States and the Constituiton.

    Since Mexico and it's agent invaders in the United States are an enemy, my only concern about them is excising the tumor in the least harmful, to the US, way possible.

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post
    Blah blah blah. Save it for the dogwhistle crowd. I see it for what it is, just another reason to hassle brown people. Being white, I hear the underlying message, just like the bigots. I simply reject it because it's morally bankrupt. I couldn't care less who does or doesn't agree with me.
    What, it is morally bankrupt to control the borders and get people who are not legally in the country out of the country?!?!?
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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Why on Earth do you want the military involved in a law enforcement matter?
    Protection of the United States is a Constitutional, national defense matter, not a police matter.

    You can find the Constitution on line if you haven seen it in a decade or two.

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post
    And bigots regularly try to use stealth-speak to hide their bigotry. It seems to really rag them off when "one of their own race" cuts thru it and calls it what it is. Bigotry, couched in less obvious terms, but bigotry just the same.
    What is bigoted about a law that targets ANYONE who may be in the country illegally?
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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If I am a bigot because I want to enforce the laws of the United States of America, then I gladly claim the title. This law has nothing to do with bigotry and everything to do with law enforcement.
    So you are just a stickler for the Feds enforcing their laws.... So I should have no problem finding posts expressing your outrage about lax enforcement of mining safety that contributed to two substantial mining disasters in West Virginia this decade, or your condemnation of the MMS for rubber stamping the environmental impact / safety considerations of deepwater drilling in the gulf. Perhaps you went on a rant about the poor enforcement of the I-9 laws that work to provide safe haven for employers of illegals. Certainly you are outraged that the Bush administration cut back on the number of IRS auditors.....

    Somehow I think this is much less about outrage about government enforcing its laws and much more about the alien nature of the illegal....unless of course you have some links to your other expressions of contempt for lax government administration of its laws.

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