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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Vic Mango View Post
    Nobody is saying that Arizona does not have the right to protect its border, they just cant ignore my rights as a free citizen to do so. We wont let them. We will not tolerate treating us and our kids as second class citizens.
    Since the law specifically prohibits "racial profiling", the rights of the lawful hispanic Americans are perfectly safe.

    Here's an idea....

    ....have every lawful hispanic American do their duty, just like everyone else, and report as many illegal aliens to the cops as they can, and when the invaders start clearing out of town, things will be better, for them and everyone who has a right to be here.

    You should be getting pissed at the invaders, not at the people trying to defend the nation.

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Americans.

    Being murdered.

    By Invaders.

    That's why this is an emergency.
    Any judge faced with this argument would go, "Oh, really? So what have you been doing about this "emergency" for the last few decades? Why did you only just now pass this law? Yeah, sorry, your inability to do your job is not an argument for rushing me when I go to do mine. See your lazy ass in a few months, next case."
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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Hell, I live hundreds of miles from the border and can see that it's an emergency.

    The nation unemployment rate has soared to an official number of >9% under the Messiah. In many areas the number is twice that.

    Shipping the Invaders back to their proper side of the border would alleviate much of this misery.
    Um, yeah, except that the "invaders" are being paid peanuts compared to what an American citizen would be getting paid under Federal law, and the businesses who hire the "invaders" do so because it helps their bottom line.

    Besides, how many American citizens do you think would rush to fill in these migrant labor jobs for minimum wage?
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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    You see, one of the biggest problems associated with illegal immigrantion from Mexico is the country's poor economy, unfair pay wages and their labor laws. While I realize there's nothing this country can do to improve their wages or labor conditions in this country, I do belief that if Mexico could inprove their economy we'd see fewer illegals crossing our sourthern boarder.
    I realize that under the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo, the United States is permitted to fortify the southern border with Mexico as it sees fit without being required to gather the consent of any other nation. As a sovereign nation, the United States of course already had this freedom, but Mexico specifically agreed to that provision of the treaty. Thus, the United States can, and should, use wide-area dispersal from aircraft to place anti-personnel landmines along the southern border to deter invasion from the hostile nation state to the south.

    There's nothing the United States is required to do to help Mexico improve it's economy.

    The government of the United States is obligated, morally and legally, to defend the people of the United States and the nations borders.

    That's the first priority of the United States government.

    Hmm...that's the only priority of the United States government.

    Rescuing Mexico or mexicans does not seem to be in the Constitution at all.

    Protecting Americans.

    That's the ticket.

    NAFTA was suppose to help in that regard. What happened?
    NAFTA was supposed to violate the US border to advance truly ridiculous notions of globalism and other such kumbaya nonsense.

    The main reason they come here is MONEY! They want to make a better way to support themselves.
    Tough noogies.

    That's why thugs rob liquor stores.

    Now, their may still suffer from not only those things I mentioned above but also the lack of proper medical care, drug trafficing and corruption, but those, too, are internal problem the Mexican government would have to deal with single-handedly. But this nation could help boost Mexico's economy if we could somehow improve trade between each nation. In order to do that, however, we'd first have to determine if NAFTA has even worked w/Mexico. If not, why?
    I've no desire to "help" Mexico.

    If Mexico doesn't have anything to sell I want to buy, they can starve.

    So long as they starve at home.

    Their problem is their corrupt government.

    Their answer to their problem is to run away and corrupt my government.

    They can go to hell.

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Um, yeah, except that the "invaders" are being paid peanuts compared to what an American citizen would be getting paid under Federal law, and the businesses who hire the "invaders" do so because it helps their bottom line.

    Besides, how many American citizens do you think would rush to fill in these migrant labor jobs for minimum wage?
    They're still invaders, and people who support the invasion are supporting their exploitation by criminal elements in this country, they're supporting the corruption of the American political process as left-wing politicians pander to these invaders and take money from the criminal employers, and they're contributing to the job loss of millions of Americans.

    But they feel really really good about themselve because they just know that their feelings are the only guide anyone should have to their actions. Logic, reason, and loyalty to the nation of their birth, and thereby their fellow citizens, doesn't mean **** to them. So long as they feel good it's okay.

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    I've no desire to "help" Mexico.

    If Mexico doesn't have anything to sell I want to buy, they can starve.

    So long as they starve at home.
    That's the problem -- they won't, so we can't just close one eye and look the other way until they sneak across, and then act all indignant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Their problem is their corrupt government.

    Their answer to their problem is to run away and corrupt my government.
    They haven't corrupted our government. You can thank the money in the politics for that.
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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    They're still invaders, and people who support the invasion are supporting their exploitation by criminal elements in this country, they're supporting the corruption of the American political process as left-wing politicians pander to these invaders and take money from the criminal employers, and they're contributing to the job loss of millions of Americans.

    But they feel really really good about themselve because they just know that their feelings are the only guide anyone should have to their actions. Logic, reason, and loyalty to the nation of their birth, and thereby their fellow citizens, doesn't mean **** to them. So long as they feel good it's okay.
    Wow, you threw around so many wild accusations that had absolutely NOTHING to do with what I said that I think you made me dizzy.
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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Any judge faced with this argument would go, "Oh, really? So what have you been doing about this "emergency" for the last few decades? Why did you only just now pass this law? Yeah, sorry, your inability to do your job is not an argument for rushing me when I go to do mine. See your lazy ass in a few months, next case."

    Robert Krentz was murdered in March.

    It's an emergency.

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    That's the problem -- they won't, so we can't just close one eye and look the other way until they sneak across, and then act all indignant.
    No.

    We put lethal ordnance on the border, under the control of the United States Army, not the weekend warriors (aka National Guard) or the cops. Rocks are deadly weapons, enemies assualting citizens with rocks should be fired upon.

    We keep our eyes open and fine and imprison employers of invaders.

    You can pretend you haven't read my posts, that's not my problem.

    What happens in Mexico isn't my problem so long as what happens in Mexico STAYS in Mexico.

    It's that simple. The borders closed, the enemies within adressed and jailed and deported as appropriate.

    Life isn't complicated unless someone it lying.

    They haven't corrupted our government. You can thank the money in the politics for that.
    Yes, I don't waste a whole lot of time arguing semantics. I'll let you figure it out.

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    I realize that under the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo, the United States is permitted to fortify the southern border with Mexico as it sees fit without being required to gather the consent of any other nation. As a sovereign nation, the United States of course already had this freedom, but Mexico specifically agreed to that provision of the treaty. Thus, the United States can, and should, use wide-area dispersal from aircraft to place anti-personnel landmines along the southern border to deter invasion from the hostile nation state to the south.

    There's nothing the United States is required to do to help Mexico improve it's economy.

    The government of the United States is obligated, morally and legally, to defend the people of the United States and the nations borders.

    That's the first priority of the United States government.

    Hmm...that's the only priority of the United States government.

    Rescuing Mexico or mexicans does not seem to be in the Constitution at all.

    Protecting Americans.

    That's the ticket.
    Can't much argue with you. If a man only cares about himself, there is no point explaining to him why he should care about others.
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