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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post
    And bigots regularly try to use stealth-speak to hide their bigotry.
    Well, yes.

    They say "undocumented" not illegal.

    They say "immigrant", not "alien".

    They avoid all discussion of the meaning of the word illegal. Just as a hint for you, a person committing an illegal act is a criminal.

    Hence, the bigots, who hate America, discuss "undocumented immigrants", whereas the honest American simply calls them "illegal criminal aliens", or, for short, "invaders".

    Bigots cavil about words.

    Americans just use the damn things the way they're meant to be used.

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It was denied a speedy hearing for political reason, and we all know the 9th will just rubberstamp the Obama Admin's position. They don't want this going to the SCOTUS because there they cannot garuntee the outcome.
    Well, someone probably told the Ninth Circuit that it's going to take some time to Pelican Brief the USSC to fit the Progressive Model.

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    If you lived on the border, you would consider it an emergency.
    Hell, I live hundreds of miles from the border and can see that it's an emergency.

    The nation unemployment rate has soared to an official number of >9% under the Messiah. In many areas the number is twice that.

    Shipping the Invaders back to their proper side of the border would alleviate much of this misery.

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    The rationale for denying the hearing is very clear: November mid-term elections. I'll just tell it like it is here.

    Judge Bolton, who likely lends Democrat (again, calling it as I see it), did the Dems a "favor" by putting this issue on standby until after the political climate settles in November. Now, those who disagree with her decision will likely argue that the government/Obama Administration doesn't want to touch illegal aliens because it helps generate sympathy among the Hispanic population. But is it possible there's another reason for this?

    Is it possible that the Obama Administration has immirgration reform squarely on their agenda and would rather begin to tackle this issue in earnest once the Congress comes back in session after the mid-term elections so that they'll know exactly where the party lines stand in November? Is it possible that Judge Bolten render a fair verdict which still gives AZ lost of room to do what's morally right in their state w/o putting their own law enforcement agents at risk? Is it possible that by striking down portions of the AZ Immigration law, Judge Bolton has placed the state of AZ and the country on a path where the unconstitutionality of separate state immigration laws would be moot assuming immigration reform is done right at the federal level?

    This country ran into similar state-sponsored issues along the lines of citizenship. The country will likely go thru similar issues where immigration reform is concerned. And for the record for those who honestly belief that the Obama Administration is dragging their heals on the immigration issue, I didn't see Ford, Carter, Reagon, Bush-41, Clinton or Bush-43 tackle this issue and none did so for various reasons. But here we have President Obama who has said time and again that he wants to deal with immigration reform legistlation. Just think about that for a moment...

    Six former presidents and not one has dared tackle immigration reform...but this one (eventually, and soon) will.

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Oh, bullpuckey. If it's an emergency, the government should have acted sooner. This is not a new problem.

    Since the state failed to act promptly, they have no grounds to yark now that the judge isn't giving them special treatment.
    Oh, bull puckey.

    The controlling politicians in the federal government don't want the laws they were forced to pass to be enforced. It's been illegal to invade this nation for decades, and no one's done anything effective yet in Washington.

    Under the Bush administration, the DHS intervened and STOPPED Border Patrol and ICE sweeps that were VERY effective in moving invaders out of the Los Angeles area.

    The Messiah is actively subverting a perfectly constitutional effort by Arizona to protect it's lawful residents from the effects of an invasion He doesn't want to see impeded.

    The DEMOCRATS in the House gave the President of Mexico a standing ovation for calling Arizona racist. So we know who the worst of our domestic enemies are.

    November is our opportunity to punish them, and the exceedingly liberal, often reversed Ninth Circus Court of Appeals (no, I don't make spelling errors like that) is paying attention to politics and attempting to relieve the pressure on the treasonous Democrats by postponing the review of the stay on the law.

    MEANWHILE, Americans in Arizona are being murdered by invading aliens, and this in itself constitutes an emergency that Arizona should use to force expediting this matter on the court's agenda.

    Americans.

    Being murdered.

    By Invaders.

    That's why this is an emergency.

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    The rationale for denying the hearing is very clear: November mid-term elections. I'll just tell it like it is here.

    Judge Bolton, who likely lends Democrat (again, calling it as I see it), did the Dems a "favor" by putting this issue on standby until after the political climate settles in November. Now, those who disagree with her decision will likely argue that the government/Obama Administration doesn't want to touch illegal aliens because it helps generate sympathy among the Hispanic population. But is it possible there's another reason for this?

    Is it possible that the Obama Administration has immirgration reform squarely on their agenda and would rather begin to tackle this issue in earnest once the Congress comes back in session after the mid-term elections so that they'll know exactly where the party lines stand in November? Is it possible that Judge Bolten render a fair verdict which still gives AZ lost of room to do what's morally right in their state w/o putting their own law enforcement agents at risk? Is it possible that by striking down portions of the AZ Immigration law, Judge Bolton has placed the state of AZ and the country on a path where the unconstitutionality of separate state immigration laws would be moot assuming immigration reform is done right at the federal level?

    This country ran into similar state-sponsored issues along the lines of citizenship. The country will likely go thru similar issues where immigration reform is concerned. And for the record for those who honestly belief that the Obama Administration is dragging their heals on the immigration issue, I didn't see Ford, Carter, Reagon, Bush-41, Clinton or Bush-43 tackle this issue and none did so for various reasons. But here we have President Obama who has said time and again that he wants to deal with immigration reform legistlation. Just think about that for a moment...

    Six former presidents and not one has dared tackle immigration reform...but this one (eventually, and soon) will.
    Instead of using the code words "immigration reform", use the word "amnesty".

    Immigration reform will include, in the real meaning of the word, granting people who obeyed this nation's laws an opportunity to immigrate into the nation AFTER they receive permission to enter. No form of amnesty or amnesty-with-a-wrist-slap is acceptable to real americans who do not want criminals in their midst.

    Yes, no one's tackled the issue of shutting the borders and shipping the Invaders home.

    That doesn't mean changing the word "amnesty" to "immigration reform" is the correct path.

    The correct path is to make the criminals unwelcome, uncomfortable, and unemployed. They can self-deport, after they leave a set of fingerprints and DNA sample at the exit.

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Vic Mango View Post
    sb1070 is unfair because only hispanics will be affected by it. The law will not be applied to african-americans or caucasians equally.
    That's weird.

    My wife is not a US citizen. She's French. If she went through Arizona, she'd affected by this law to.

    What kind of racist is it that says only hispanics will be affected?

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    and you know this how? This is such bs. Question, do you dispute the fact that the majority of illegals in AZ are coming from mexico? What part of the law don't you understand about having a reasonalbe suspection the person is illegal, of course this is only done after a legal stop. I say enact the law, then if it is abused hold the LE accountable.
    They have to lie about the law and what it says, because if they didn't lie they'd be forced to either admit there's nothing wrong with the law or, worse, be quiet becuase they'd have nothing to say.

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    I agree Congress should deal with it. They have not for years and years. So if they fail to act, that leaves the States to act. IMO, the judge ruling was wrong. Federal laws requires legal immigrants to carry papers that prove they are in the country legally. To much politcial correctness for me. Maybe if States like Az keep in heat on, Congress will actually do something.

    You continue to spin the pro illegal points. If your license is valid, end of story. I also reject your political hack about republicans always say no. It shows your political bias.

    So with your solutions, the States takes it in the shorts till Congress passes something that works. Besides the Dems have the majority. Don't see anything coming from them.
    What if I hand the officer an out of state drivers liscence? It is more complicated than that. The only people who are trained and have the proper tools and databases are federal immigration officers. I think the democrates should use the same tactics as the republicans did during the bush administration, but some democratic congresspeople are wussies. Its clear that both sides of this issue want something done AND NOW.

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Well Mexico does have the best interests of the U.S. at heart... the best interest to sell more illegal drugs.
    havent you heard about the war the mexican govmt has against the drug cartels. These cartels are just a dangerous as the taliban. The death toll is big. If we really wanted to put a hurt on these cartels and drugs, mexico could clamp down from the south and america from the north, and meet at the border. That would eradicate all the big drug cartels and hopefully the desire for citizens to join them. But no, we have invested vast amounts of resources in iraq. Too bad.

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