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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    It gets delayed for the same reason any case at that level gets delayed -- scheduling, case load, and priority.
    Right. To see this as politics is silly. Oklahoma has had a similar law on the books for several years, since 2007. (Oklahoma Taxpayer and Citizens Protection Act) Its enforcement was suspended immediately and still waiting for adjudication. This was all very predictable. Wrong to be challenged, IMO, but predictable.
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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Hm.... What is their reason for denying them speedy legal proceedings? And why November? Clearly the courts are trying to legislate and preserve the Democrat's party image. The law is no longer the law, but merely a political ploy
    Not granting a request to expedite is not the same thing as delaying.

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    And bigots regularly try to use stealth-speak to hide their bigotry. It seems to really rag them off when "one of their own race" cuts thru it and calls it what it is. Bigotry, couched in less obvious terms, but bigotry just the same.
    It is entirely possible, even likely to support the Arizona law and not be bigoted. The law itself is not bigoted. We need to stop throwing around the term "bigot", and accusations of racism at every turn.
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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Right. To see this as politics is silly. Oklahoma has had a similar law on the books for several years, since 2007. (Oklahoma Taxpayer and Citizens Protection Act) Its enforcement was suspended immediately and still waiting for adjudication. This was all very predictable. Wrong to be challenged, IMO, but predictable.
    Actually only 2 of the 3 employment provisions were blocked, not the whole bill.These provisions were-

    # Prohibit firing of workers legally in the country while retaining workers illegally in the country.


    # Require businesses that contract with individual private contractors to obtain documentation that the individuals are authorized to work or, without documentation, withhold taxes at the top rate.



    These provisions are still being enforced
    HB 1804 Summary


    Section 3 replicates the federal provision that makes it a felony punishable by imprisonment for not less than 1 year or a fine of $1000.00, for any person to transport, harbor, or shelter an alien in reckless disregard for their illegal immigration status. State and local prosecutors now have the tools to stop illegal aliens from "residing" in Oklahoma, or traveling instate in search of unlawful employment.

    Section 4 restricts issuance of most official identification documents to U.S. citizens, legal permanent resident aliens or holders of valid unexpired visas. Illegal aliens cannot operate in-state if they lack official documentation. Use of foreign consular cards issued to illegal aliens has been prohibited.

    Section 5 requires police to verify the immigration status of persons who have been arrested and detained at a local jail for felony crimes, and report all illegal aliens to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

    Section 7 requires all public employers to use the Basic Pilot electronic work authorization verification program. State and local public contractors are prohibited from commencing work on a taxpayer-funded contract before they register with the Basic Pilot Program.

    Section 8 requires every public agency to verify the lawful presence of aliens aged 14 years or older who applies for state or local public benefits, using the online SAVE system, as authorized by the 1996 Welfare Reform Act. Standard federal exceptions for emergency health care treatment or other public health services apply. This measure builds on similar provisions developed by IRLI that have been successfully adopted by Virginia, Colorado, and Georgia.

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    Section 10 directs the Oklahoma Attorney General to negotiate a "287(g)" cooperative agreement between the State of Oklahoma and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to increase state and local police joint enforcement of federal immigration law with DHS. 287(g) agreements help insure that illegal aliens discovered by Oklahoma police officers are quickly and safely transferred into federal custody. Helps fight "catch and release" abuses that allow criminal aliens back into the neighborhoods where they were arrested.
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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    what does it matter, the law will be declared unconstitutional.
    Let me know if you are willing to wager on that.
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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Everybody else with a case chugging through the Federal court system has to wait, why the hell should the government of the state of Arizona be any different?

    It's a big deal, but you can't call it an emergency. If it were an emergency, they would've done this years ago.
    If you lived on the border, you would consider it an emergency.
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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Not granting a request to expedite is not the same thing as delaying.
    That may be true, but I find it a little fishy that they deny a high profile and very politically motivated case an expedited hearing and then schedule it until November after the elections, especially when the majority of Americans support the AZ law.
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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    That may be true, but I find it a little fishy that they deny a high profile and very politically motivated case an expedited hearing and then schedule it until November after the elections, especially when the majority of Americans support the AZ law.
    Popularity is not a reason to expedite. In fact, there is no real reason to expedite. That is the problem here. In the absence of compelling reason, why expedite?
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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    If you lived on the border, you would consider it an emergency.
    Oh, bullpuckey. If it's an emergency, the government should have acted sooner. This is not a new problem.

    Since the state failed to act promptly, they have no grounds to yark now that the judge isn't giving them special treatment.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Popularity is not a reason to expedite. In fact, there is no real reason to expedite. That is the problem here. In the absence of compelling reason, why expedite?
    The compelling reason is the problems illegal aliens cause in AZ. Shouldn't they also offer a good reason for not expediting it? I just see this as possibly a politically motivated action. I believe AZ requested the trial to take place in September, and they denied them an expedited request. They could have said "no, but October would work." Why wait until November? This is a political case where the majority of Americans support the law. It was requested that the case be expedited, and that was denied for no good reason (from what I understand). No effort was made to even try to make this sooner. Instead they have scheduled it to be in November after national elections.
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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    sb1070 is unfair because only hispanics will be affected by it. The law will not be applied to african-americans or caucasians equally.

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