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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Either cite the paragraphs in the specific law that state racial discrimination or stop trying to pretend it exists.



    No, there's no legitimacy to your efforts to paint the law as racist when you cannot cite the racist specifics in the law.

    There are no racist specifics in the law, so give up.



    It's completely irrelevant to the law. Look at all the racists that voted for Obama.



    ALL Mexicans who entered the nation illegally and every person of every other national origin who entered the country illegally deliberately broke the law, and that's the ONLY THING that matters.
    A cop could stop a person who was going 2 mph over the speed limit and let the white folks go who are going much faster. It doesn't take much imagination use the law against the brown people. Does it?

    No matter, the law will never see the light of day, IMO.

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    How does anyone prove their status without 'papers?'
    Only immigrants are required to do so... this is already in the federal law...
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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Nothing unrealistic about the realization that if enough employers of these invaders are fined and jailed, the other employers will get the picture and the invaders won't have any jobs.

    No jobs means no rent payments.

    No rent payments means no roof.

    No roof means "goin' back home", just like many of the Invaders in Arizona are doing.

    You have noticed the invaders are leaving Arizona like rats fleeing a cooling camel corpse, haven't you? The rest of us have. Funny effect that, for a law that hasn't even been enforced yet. Just wait until the Robert's court properly declares the provisions of the law Constitutional and other states rush to copy it. That will put huge pressures on the remaining states to follow suit, too.

    Again, the solution is that simple. It's called "enforce existing law". Which all that SB1070 allows Arizona police to do, and nothing more than that.
    I absolutely agree with your first statement.... we should be enforcing existing federal law that requires employers to only hire those that have the right to work in the US. You do this the jobs dry up and there is no reason for illegals to stay here. Funny, this law does nothing to encourage this. It only seeks to terrorize individuals one at a time.

    The hypocrisy in this is that very few are are really serious about illegal immigration. They just like the politics of populism. If we were interested, we would have a comprehensive solution to it that would include enforcement at the employer level. The problem, however, is that too many people like the cheap labor (same exact problem that led to the continuation of slavery and then the civil war). Until people are willing to approach this issue at multiple facets, then this is just noise and not worthy of anyone's time. This idea of round 'em up one at at time and ship 'em home is a complete farce and largely appeals to the racists among us.

    As to the law "allowing" police enforcement of existing laws... that is not correct. This law mandates police enforcement. It re-prioritizes them. The police are currently free to enforce existing state and federal laws.
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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    A cop could stop a person who was going 2 mph over the speed limit and let the white folks go who are going much faster. It doesn't take much imagination use the law against the brown people. Does it?

    No matter, the law will never see the light of day, IMO.
    So in other words you have nothing but conspiracy theories about what the cops might do. You do not have any actual proof or evidence of racial discrimination, racial profiling or racism in the bill. What do you think would happen if Obama had the AG sue over racial profiling in the bill? The courts would laugh their ass off at them even the left circuit court of appeals would have to admit that there is no racial profiling or discrimination in the bill and that it doesn't even allow for those things. Thats why Obama is having the AG sue over supremacy clause because they know that any claims of racism and racial profiling in the bill are complete bull ****.
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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Only immigrants are required to do so... this is already in the federal law...
    Are you avoiding answering my specific question or not understanding what I am asking? I'll grant you the fact that its federal law that immigrants carry proof, so what? Do you fail at logic? How does a American citizen (say of Mexican descent) prove they are citizens?

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So in other words you have nothing but conspiracy theories about what the cops might do. You do not have any actual proof or evidence of racial discrimination, racial profiling or racism in the bill. What do you think would happen if Obama had the AG sue over racial profiling in the bill? The courts would laugh their ass off at them even the left circuit court of appeals would have to admit that there is no racial profiling or discrimination in the bill and that it doesn't even allow for those things. Thats why Obama is having the AG sue over supremacy clause because they know that any claims of racism and racial profiling in the bill are complete bull ****.
    Seriously, have you ever heard of the phrase "driving while black?" Apparently not. Any dumbass can read the bill and know it doesn't specifically call for racial profiling. It takes a little intelligence to realize it will lead to it.

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Vic Mango View Post
    Of course not, because its not happening to you. There are all kinds of legal stops. Technically I could get pulled over for going 4 miles over the speed limit. The white guy will get a ticket, I will get a ticket AND have to have my immigration status verified.
    OMG... you mean, you'll have to show some ID? Holy ****! The horror of it all. How WILL you ever survive such difficulty?

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Are you avoiding answering my specific question or not understanding what I am asking? I'll grant you the fact that its federal law that immigrants carry proof, so what? Do you fail at logic? How does a American citizen (say of Mexican descent) prove they are citizens?
    The same way I do. With a social security card and a valid driver's license.

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Seriously, have you ever heard of the phrase "driving while black?" Apparently not. .
    So you are claiming that cops are inherently racist, especially Arizonan cops without any evidence to back that claim up? Of course I am sure you will find a bad apple or two and try to use him to peg all police as being racist.


    Any dumbass can read the bill and know it doesn't specifically call for racial profiling. It takes a little intelligence to realize it will lead to it
    So you are accusing your fellow pro-illegals of either lying or being dumb asses ?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The same way I do. With a social security card and a valid driver's license.
    So, according to you everyone is required to carry their social security card on their person and must have a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So you are claiming that cops are inherently racist, especially Arizonan cops without any evidence to back that claim up? Of course I am sure you will find a bad apple or two and try to use him to peg all police as being racist.
    I didn't say that, it's your invention that I said it. The police are human just like everyone else.

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