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    Re: Texas Inmates Likely to Be Exonerated After Committee Discovers Wrongful Convicti

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    FYI, I have no problem with killing people. Killin's ok by me. ....But, philosophically I'm a little particular about the idea that we're killing the RIGHT people.

    If we have you on video doing the crime, have your DNA at the scene, and those are both pieces of evidence in the case, then I say it's ok to take YOU out without any further judicial review and be done with you.

    If all we have is eyewitness testimony (Eyewitness statements are notorious for being incorrect)
    and no DNA and no video, then, we just throw you in the hole forever.
    Of course in your last sentence, appeals would be granted for further review, and I would award the investigations to a third party to be paid with a hefty commission this way it would be expedient and cheaper than a government/law inforcement/judicial investigation.

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    Re: Texas Inmates Likely to Be Exonerated After Committee Discovers Wrongful Convicti

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Of course in your last sentence, appeals would be granted for further review, and I would award the investigations to a third party to be paid with a hefty commission this way it would be expedient and cheaper than a government/law inforcement/judicial investigation.
    Very interesting idea. On first glimpse I like it. I'd have to mull it over for a bit to be sure though.

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    Re: Texas Inmates Likely to Be Exonerated After Committee Discovers Wrongful Convicti

    Quote Originally Posted by Rightwingnutjob View Post
    Very interesting idea. On first glimpse I like it. I'd have to mull it over for a bit to be sure though.
    I thought of this because every time I hear of some one being wrongly accused or incarcerated, in most cases these people have been exonerated due to a third party investigations.

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    Re: Texas Inmates Likely to Be Exonerated After Committee Discovers Wrongful Convicti

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    I thought of this because every time I hear of some one being wrongly accused or incarcerated, in most cases these people have been exonerated due to a third party investigations.
    Clever, clever.

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    Re: Texas Inmates Likely to Be Exonerated After Committee Discovers Wrongful Convicti

    Quote Originally Posted by rudygetsplenty View Post
    If you are only talking about people on Death Row, I rescind my argument and concede your point. In that case although it's a small amount of tax dollars, it's too much considering that it's benificiary is somebody who committed a crime so heinous that society has deemed their life forfeit. However, if you are talking about anybody not sentenced to death, I stand behind my sarcasm. The justice system is perversely balanced in opposition to the poor, and education is one of the best remedies available, if not the best.
    I was speaking about those on Death Row and thanks for understanding the error of your ways

    While I have no problem with petty criminals getting an education behind bars? How much of that is wasted when they go on to be repeat offenders? That is a whole other topic but it still pisses me off that people behind bars can get a free education while their are plenty of poor children and out of work adults that are more deserving. That is just my thoughts on it and yes I do feel someone on the outside is much more deserving than someone who has commited a crime and in lockdown.
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    Re: Texas Inmates Likely to Be Exonerated After Committee Discovers Wrongful Convicti

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    We do ... and we had to create a FEDERAL law to prevent Texas and a few other bloodthirsty states from executing menetally retarded people. If this law doesn't prove there is an issue with southern justice, nothing does.
    I live in the State of North Carolina and am well aware of the problems here in the South but please try to refrain from making this some North V/S The South Issue.
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    Re: Texas Inmates Likely to Be Exonerated After Committee Discovers Wrongful Convicti

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    I live in the State of North Carolina and am well aware of the problems here in the South but please try to refrain from making this some North V/S The South Issue.
    Fair enough.

    I just do not think people who have no problem execute mentally retarded inmates (who belong in a mental hospital instead of prison) should be allowed to use the death penalty. Texas especially.

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    Re: Texas Inmates Likely to Be Exonerated After Committee Discovers Wrongful Convicti

    Quote Originally Posted by Rightwingnutjob View Post
    I could actually understand his point of view if he simply didn't believe in the death penalty. Unfortunately he's painting the South with a broad brush calling it racist and further advocating for the prosecuter and judge to be eligible for life in prison if the wrong person is inadvertently charged. These claims are rooted in some alternate reality and I can't even fathom a single reason to justify these beliefs.
    That's because in your reality those who steal half or all of peoples lives do not need to be punished for their crimes. I believe when prosecutors and judges drop that kind of ball they need to pay a serious price for it. That price will make prosecutors and judges less likely persue weak cases (which is done to increase their conviction ratings) and make certain when they go after somebody the evidence damn well supports it.

    You can defend the guilty all you want. What you're doing is protecting your own class. Nothing more.

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    Re: Texas Inmates Likely to Be Exonerated After Committee Discovers Wrongful Convicti

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    First it was Texas then it was the south. The stupidity of the argument you are making knows no bounds. So nothing bad ever happened in the North or out West according to your pathetic attempts at logic.
    I never claimed the north was innocent.... but at least we do not execute mentally retarded prisoners... nor do we add minors to a seperate sex offenders registry (something done by the Nazi scum who run Florida).

    ALso ... mentioning the Colombine masacre, something unrealted to the topic, was truly and absolutely tasteless, and you should be ashamed of yourself. It was NOT state sactioned. What I was complaing of WAS. There is a fine line between that conversation and the tasteless reference you made to Colombine. Shame on you sir. Tasteless and out line to the end. You're a true republican.

    For the record, since the death penalty was reinstated in 1976, no state has executed more inmates than Texas. Texas is bloodthirsty and out of control.
    Article here: Texas reporter's seen unrivaled number of U.S. executions - CNN.com.

    While no state is innocent, Texas and some other southern states went out of their way to be and stay corrupt. This phenominon started when SOUTHERN PLANTATION OWNERS kidnapped people from Africa and used them for slave labor.

    Here's a look at justice in the south:

    Freedom Riders were Civil Rights activists that rode interstate buses into the segregated southern United States to test the United States Supreme Court decision Boynton v. Virginia (of 1960).[1] The first Freedom Ride left Washington, D.C., on May 4, 1961, and was scheduled to arrive in New Orleans on May 17.[2]

    Boynton v. Virginia had outlawed racial segregation in the restaurants and waiting rooms in terminals serving buses that crossed state lines. Five years prior to the Boynton ruling, the Interstate Commerce Commission had issued a ruling in Sarah Keys v. Carolina Coach Company that had explicitly denounced the Plessy v. Ferguson doctrine of separate but equal in interstate bus travel, but the ICC had failed to enforce its own ruling, and thus Jim Crow travel laws remained in force throughout the South.

    The Freedom Riders set out to challenge this status quo by riding various forms of public transportation in the South to challenge local laws or customs that enforced segregation. The Freedom Rides, and the violent reactions they provoked, bolstered the credibility of the American Civil Rights Movement and called national attention to the violent disregard for the law that was used to enforce segregation in the southern United States. Riders were arrested for trespassing, unlawful assembly, and violating state and local Jim Crow laws, along with other alleged offenses.

    Most of the subsequent rides were sponsored by the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE), while others belonged to the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC, pronounced "Snick"). The Freedom Rides followed on the heels of dramatic sit-ins against segregated lunch counters conducted by students and youth throughout the South and boycotts beginning in 1960.

    The United States Supreme Court's decision in Boynton v. Virginia granted interstate travelers the legal right to disregard local segregation ordinances regarding interstate transportation facilities. But the Freedom Riders' rights were not enforced, and their actions were considered criminal acts throughout most of the South. For example, upon the Riders' arrival in Mississippi, their journey ended with imprisonment for exercising their legal rights in interstate travel. Similar arrests took place in other Southern cities.

    Article: Freedom Rides - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Mississippi Burning:

    The Mississippi civil rights workers murders involved the 1964 lynching of three political activists during the American Civil Rights Movement.

    The murders of James Chaney, a 21-year-old black man from Meridian, Mississippi; Andrew Goodman, a 20-year-old white Jewish anthropology student from New York; and Michael Schwerner, a 24-year-old white Jewish CORE organizer and former social worker also from New York, symbolized the risks of participating in the Civil Rights Movement in the South during what became known as "Freedom Summer", dedicated to voter registration.

    The lynching of the three young men occurred shortly after midnight on June 21, 1964, when they went to investigate the burning of a church that supported civil rights activity. James Chaney was a local Freedom Movement activist in Meridian, Michael Schwerner was a CORE organizer from New York, and Andrew Goodman, also from New York, was a Freedom Summer volunteer. The three men had just finished week-long training on the campus of Western College for Women (now part of Miami University), in Oxford, Ohio, regarding strategies on how to register blacks to vote.

    After getting a haircut from a black barber in Meridian, the three men headed to Longdale, Mississippi, 50 miles away in Neshoba County, in order to inspect the ruins of Mount Zion United Methodist Church. The church, a meeting place for civil rights groups, had been burned just five days earlier.

    Aware that their station wagon's license number had been given to members of the notorious White Citizens' Council and Ku Klux Klan, before leaving Meridian they informed other Council of Federated Organizations (COFO) workers of their plans and set check-in times in accordance with standard security procedures. Late that afternoon, Neshoba County deputy Cecil Price himself a member of the White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan stopped the blue Ford carrying the trio. He arrested Chaney for allegedly driving 35 miles per hour over the speed limit. He also booked Goodman and Schwerner, "for investigation."

    Schwerner, Goodman, and Chaney were all denied telephone calls during their time at the jail. COFO workers made attempts to find the three men, but when they called the Neshoba County jail, the secretary followed her instructions to lie and told the workers the three young men were not there. During the hours they were held incommunicado in jail, Price notified his Klan associates who assembled and planned how to kill the three civil rights workers.

    While awaiting their release, the men were given a dinner of spoonbread, green peas, potatoes and salad. When the Klan ambush was set up on the road back to Meridian, Chaney was fined $20, and the three men were ordered to leave the county. Price followed them to the edge of town, and then pulled them over with his police siren. He held them until the Klan murder squad arrived. They were taken to an isolated spot where James Chaney was beaten and all three were shot to death. Their car was driven into Bogue Chitto swamp and set on fire, and their bodies were buried in an earthen dam.[1] In June 2000, the autopsy report that had been previously withheld from the 1967 trial was released. The report stated Chaney had a left arm broken in one place, a right arm broken in two places, "a marked disruption" of the left elbow joint and may also have suffered trauma to the groin area. A pathologist who examined the bodies at the families' request following their autopsies noted Chaney also had a broken jaw and a crushed right shoulder which were not mentioned in the autopsy report. As the autopsy photographs and X-Rays had been destroyed, the injuries could not be confirmed.

    THESE OCCURRED WITH THE BLESSING AND SUPPORT OF CORRUPT SOUTHERN LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL.

    Aticle: Mississippi civil rights workers murders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In then end, I admited my state and most others were less than innocent. You didn't have the courage to do the same. All you did was spread republicanazi propaganda and take a completely tasteless shot at me by reference the Colombine incident.

    You call my logic laughable, yet you didn't have the courage to own up. That is a serious character flaw on your part. Shame on you sir.

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    Re: Texas Inmates Likely to Be Exonerated After Committee Discovers Wrongful Convicti

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    If they are that stupid? They deserve to be killed based on how stupid it is to confess to a crime they did not commit. Consider it a favor to mankind to get rid of that kind of stupid.
    WRONG. That attitude sends innocent people to the grave. It's shameful, dispicable, and completely unforgivable.

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