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Texas Inmates Likely to Be Exonerated After Committee Discovers Wrongful Convictions

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We do ... and we had to create a FEDERAL law to prevent Texas and a few other bloodthirsty states from executing menetally retarded people. If this law doesn't prove there is an issue with southern justice, nothing does.

I live in the State of North Carolina and am well aware of the problems here in the South but please try to refrain from making this some North V/S The South Issue.
 
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I live in the State of North Carolina and am well aware of the problems here in the South but please try to refrain from making this some North V/S The South Issue.

Fair enough.

I just do not think people who have no problem execute mentally retarded inmates (who belong in a mental hospital instead of prison) should be allowed to use the death penalty. Texas especially.
 
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I could actually understand his point of view if he simply didn't believe in the death penalty. Unfortunately he's painting the South with a broad brush calling it racist and further advocating for the prosecuter and judge to be eligible for life in prison if the wrong person is inadvertently charged. These claims are rooted in some alternate reality and I can't even fathom a single reason to justify these beliefs.

That's because in your reality those who steal half or all of peoples lives do not need to be punished for their crimes. I believe when prosecutors and judges drop that kind of ball they need to pay a serious price for it. That price will make prosecutors and judges less likely persue weak cases (which is done to increase their conviction ratings) and make certain when they go after somebody the evidence damn well supports it.

You can defend the guilty all you want. What you're doing is protecting your own class. Nothing more.
 
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First it was Texas then it was the south. The stupidity of the argument you are making knows no bounds. So nothing bad ever happened in the North or out West according to your pathetic attempts at logic.

I never claimed the north was innocent.... but at least we do not execute mentally retarded prisoners... nor do we add minors to a seperate sex offenders registry (something done by the Nazi scum who run Florida).

ALso ... mentioning the Colombine masacre, something unrealted to the topic, was truly and absolutely tasteless, and you should be ashamed of yourself. It was NOT state sactioned. What I was complaing of WAS. There is a fine line between that conversation and the tasteless reference you made to Colombine. Shame on you sir. Tasteless and out line to the end. You're a true republican.

For the record, since the death penalty was reinstated in 1976, no state has executed more inmates than Texas. Texas is bloodthirsty and out of control.
Article here: Texas reporter's seen unrivaled number of U.S. executions - CNN.com.

While no state is innocent, Texas and some other southern states went out of their way to be and stay corrupt. This phenominon started when SOUTHERN PLANTATION OWNERS kidnapped people from Africa and used them for slave labor.

Here's a look at justice in the south:

Freedom Riders were Civil Rights activists that rode interstate buses into the segregated southern United States to test the United States Supreme Court decision Boynton v. Virginia (of 1960).[1] The first Freedom Ride left Washington, D.C., on May 4, 1961, and was scheduled to arrive in New Orleans on May 17.[2]

Boynton v. Virginia had outlawed racial segregation in the restaurants and waiting rooms in terminals serving buses that crossed state lines. Five years prior to the Boynton ruling, the Interstate Commerce Commission had issued a ruling in Sarah Keys v. Carolina Coach Company that had explicitly denounced the Plessy v. Ferguson doctrine of separate but equal in interstate bus travel, but the ICC had failed to enforce its own ruling, and thus Jim Crow travel laws remained in force throughout the South.

The Freedom Riders set out to challenge this status quo by riding various forms of public transportation in the South to challenge local laws or customs that enforced segregation. The Freedom Rides, and the violent reactions they provoked, bolstered the credibility of the American Civil Rights Movement and called national attention to the violent disregard for the law that was used to enforce segregation in the southern United States. Riders were arrested for trespassing, unlawful assembly, and violating state and local Jim Crow laws, along with other alleged offenses.

Most of the subsequent rides were sponsored by the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE), while others belonged to the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC, pronounced "Snick"). The Freedom Rides followed on the heels of dramatic sit-ins against segregated lunch counters conducted by students and youth throughout the South and boycotts beginning in 1960.

The United States Supreme Court's decision in Boynton v. Virginia granted interstate travelers the legal right to disregard local segregation ordinances regarding interstate transportation facilities. But the Freedom Riders' rights were not enforced, and their actions were considered criminal acts throughout most of the South. For example, upon the Riders' arrival in Mississippi, their journey ended with imprisonment for exercising their legal rights in interstate travel. Similar arrests took place in other Southern cities.

Article: Freedom Rides - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Mississippi Burning:

The Mississippi civil rights workers murders involved the 1964 lynching of three political activists during the American Civil Rights Movement.

The murders of James Chaney, a 21-year-old black man from Meridian, Mississippi; Andrew Goodman, a 20-year-old white Jewish anthropology student from New York; and Michael Schwerner, a 24-year-old white Jewish CORE organizer and former social worker also from New York, symbolized the risks of participating in the Civil Rights Movement in the South during what became known as "Freedom Summer", dedicated to voter registration.

The lynching of the three young men occurred shortly after midnight on June 21, 1964, when they went to investigate the burning of a church that supported civil rights activity. James Chaney was a local Freedom Movement activist in Meridian, Michael Schwerner was a CORE organizer from New York, and Andrew Goodman, also from New York, was a Freedom Summer volunteer. The three men had just finished week-long training on the campus of Western College for Women (now part of Miami University), in Oxford, Ohio, regarding strategies on how to register blacks to vote.

After getting a haircut from a black barber in Meridian, the three men headed to Longdale, Mississippi, 50 miles away in Neshoba County, in order to inspect the ruins of Mount Zion United Methodist Church. The church, a meeting place for civil rights groups, had been burned just five days earlier.

Aware that their station wagon's license number had been given to members of the notorious White Citizens' Council and Ku Klux Klan, before leaving Meridian they informed other Council of Federated Organizations (COFO) workers of their plans and set check-in times in accordance with standard security procedures. Late that afternoon, Neshoba County deputy Cecil Price — himself a member of the White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan — stopped the blue Ford carrying the trio. He arrested Chaney for allegedly driving 35 miles per hour over the speed limit. He also booked Goodman and Schwerner, "for investigation."

Schwerner, Goodman, and Chaney were all denied telephone calls during their time at the jail. COFO workers made attempts to find the three men, but when they called the Neshoba County jail, the secretary followed her instructions to lie and told the workers the three young men were not there. During the hours they were held incommunicado in jail, Price notified his Klan associates who assembled and planned how to kill the three civil rights workers.

While awaiting their release, the men were given a dinner of spoonbread, green peas, potatoes and salad. When the Klan ambush was set up on the road back to Meridian, Chaney was fined $20, and the three men were ordered to leave the county. Price followed them to the edge of town, and then pulled them over with his police siren. He held them until the Klan murder squad arrived. They were taken to an isolated spot where James Chaney was beaten and all three were shot to death. Their car was driven into Bogue Chitto swamp and set on fire, and their bodies were buried in an earthen dam.[1] In June 2000, the autopsy report that had been previously withheld from the 1967 trial was released. The report stated Chaney had a left arm broken in one place, a right arm broken in two places, "a marked disruption" of the left elbow joint and may also have suffered trauma to the groin area. A pathologist who examined the bodies at the families' request following their autopsies noted Chaney also had a broken jaw and a crushed right shoulder which were not mentioned in the autopsy report. As the autopsy photographs and X-Rays had been destroyed, the injuries could not be confirmed.

THESE OCCURRED WITH THE BLESSING AND SUPPORT OF CORRUPT SOUTHERN LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL.

Aticle: Mississippi civil rights workers murders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In then end, I admited my state and most others were less than innocent. You didn't have the courage to do the same. All you did was spread republicanazi propaganda and take a completely tasteless shot at me by reference the Colombine incident.

You call my logic laughable, yet you didn't have the courage to own up. That is a serious character flaw on your part. Shame on you sir.
 
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If they are that stupid? They deserve to be killed based on how stupid it is to confess to a crime they did not commit. Consider it a favor to mankind to get rid of that kind of stupid.

WRONG. That attitude sends innocent people to the grave. It's shameful, dispicable, and completely unforgivable.
 
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I was speaking about those on Death Row and thanks for understanding the error of your ways:)

While I have no problem with petty criminals getting an education behind bars? How much of that is wasted when they go on to be repeat offenders? That is a whole other topic but it still pisses me off that people behind bars can get a free education while their are plenty of poor children and out of work adults that are more deserving. That is just my thoughts on it and yes I do feel someone on the outside is much more deserving than someone who has commited a crime and in lockdown.

How much of it wasted because the republicanazi hordes have made it impossible for these people to live a normal life after prison? How many of these people would re-offend if they could get a job? Don't blame the imates for that. Blame the hordes of mindless republicanazi business ball jugglers who have allowed businesss to discriminate against people for being less than perfect.

Blame the republican hordes and their big business masters.
 
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That's because in your reality those who steal half or all of peoples lives do not need to be punished for their crimes. I believe when prosecutors and judges drop that kind of ball they need to pay a serious price for it. That price will make prosecutors and judges less likely persue weak cases (which is done to increase their conviction ratings) and make certain when they go after somebody the evidence damn well supports it.

You can defend the guilty all you want. What you're doing is protecting your own class. Nothing more.

I'm not defending my own class in anyway. I'm not even close to the class of Lawyers and doctors. My dad is in the construction buisiness (electrical) which is not doing very well thanks to the combined idiocy of my state government and the federal government (notice I didn't just specify the OA). I work at a restaurant and a garden to help put myself through college. My mom recently picked up a job at the post office after taking years off from working with social services.

I'm lower middle class at the moment I'd say.

If it can be proven that prosecutor or judge is just trying to improve their conviction rate rather than doing what's fair (as defined by the justice system) then by all means put them in prison. Otherwise, it's a bad idea.

Also, why don't you refrain from throwing out the insult "republicanazis". Republican are NOT Nazis. Some Nazi people may claim to be republican (hell some may claim to be democrat) but they are an insult to the right (or the left). The republican party does not condone Nazism. Why do you feel the need to specify republican when the two have nothing to do with each other. Just call these people racists, that's what they are. Their party affiliation means jack ****.
 
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I'm not defending my own class in anyway. I'm not even close to the class of Lawyers and doctors. My dad is in the construction buisiness (electrical) which is not doing very well thanks to the combined idiocy of my state government and the federal government (notice I didn't just specify the OA). I work at a restaurant and a garden to help put myself through college. My mom recently picked up a job at the post office after taking years off from working with social services.

It seems to me you would be better off voting the other way. The demos are currently trying to get the repubs to vote on a bill that would allow business like that owned by your parents to get access to funds. Republicans refuse to support it. Why? Because they are more concerned with the national debt than they are with the survival of the American people. Frankly, if it isn't going to BIG business, republicans are agains it.

If it can be proven that prosecutor or judge is just trying to improve their conviction rate rather than doing what's fair (as defined by the justice system) then by all means put them in prison. Otherwise, it's a bad idea.

As a Paralegal, I have seen examples of this. It's VERY common and out of control. Prosecutors are rarely in a courtroom to get justice for the victims of crime. What I suggested would make a VERY effective deterrant that will prevent judicial and prosecutorial corruption of justice for the sake of ratings. You are free to think it's a bad idea; I have seen this effect in person and as a juror, and I am telling you, it's NOT a bad idea. It will effectively eliminate the corruptive influence of the conviction rating.


Also, why don't you refrain from throwing out the insult "republicanazis". Republican are NOT Nazis. Some Nazi people may claim to be republican (hell some may claim to be democrat) but they are an insult to the right (or the left). The republican party does not condone Nazism. Why do you feel the need to specify republican when the two have nothing to do with each other. Just call these people racists, that's what they are. Their party affiliation means jack ****.
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The republican party advocates, supports, and actively participates in stealing from the poor to give to the rich. Likewise, republicans support big business and actions therefore that can only be considered nazi-like. This fact is where I draw my reference from. My reference will be invalid the day big business and the GOP are seperated by the fear of spending life in Supermax Florence if the opposite happens in any way, shape, or form.
 
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It seems to me you would be better off voting the other way. The demos are currently trying to get the repubs to vote on a bill that would allow business like that owned by your parents to get access to funds. Republicans refuse to support it. Why? Because they are more concerned with the national debt than they are with the survival of the American people. Frankly, if it isn't going to BIG business, republicans are agains it.
Demos? That might be a good name for them. My dad would never accept federal funds. He's dead set against it. If you want the truth the dems just failed to keep the bush tax cuts. His taxes are now going up another 3%. Obama has actually increased tax on the lower and middle class. Don't ask me what bill, the proof is in the pudding. My families taxes have gone up with him. I know a single mother who works 60 hours a week to make 30k a year. Her taxes went up too. She actually owed money to the feds this year instead of receiving a tax return. The Dems and the Republicans in office suck. They're in office for themselves. You're a downright fool if you believe the liberals in office are any different.
As a Paralegal, I have seen examples of this. It's VERY common and out of control. Prosecutors are rarely in a courtroom to get justice for the victims of crime. What I suggested would make a VERY effective deterrant that will prevent judicial and prosecutorial corruption of justice for the sake of ratings. You are free to think it's a bad idea; I have seen this effect in person and as a juror, and I am telling you, it's NOT a bad idea. It will effectively eliminate the corruptive influence of the conviction rating.
With the opinions that you have, it's a little scary that you're a paralegal.
The republican party advocates, supports, and actively participates in stealing from the poor to give to the rich. Likewise, republicans support big business and actions therefore that can only be considered nazi-like. This fact is where I draw my reference from. My reference will be invalid the day big business and the GOP are separated by the fear of spending life in Supermax Florence if the opposite happens in any way, shape, or form.
Here is where I decide that you're a down right fool. I'm done debating with you. Republicans do support big business. They also support small business. Tax cuts to businesses allows for expansion of jobs. That's the republican stance. To compare republicans to Nazis is a despicable insult to both the right and those who were ever hurt or killed by the Nazis. Your reference is invalid because you are an invalid. Have a nice life, and I'll hope that some day you see the light.
 
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Here is where I decide that you're a down right fool. I'm done debating with you. Republicans do support big business. They also support small business. Tax cuts to businesses allows for expansion of jobs. That's the republican stance. To compare republicans to Nazis is a despicable insult to both the right and those who were ever hurt or killed by the Nazis. Your reference is invalid because you are an invalid. Have a nice life, and I'll hope that some day you see the light.

I am sorry we do not agree. I do not like to see people prosecuted simply to up a conviction rating. This is all to common. I consider this type of thing a sham and I compare it to the kangaroot courts of nazi Germany. My comparisson is valid. You have a nice life as well.
 
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The republican party advocates, supports, and actively participates in stealing from the poor to give to the rich. Likewise, republicans support big business and actions therefore that can only be considered nazi-like. This fact is where I draw my reference from. My reference will be invalid the day big business and the GOP are seperated by the fear of spending life in Supermax Florence if the opposite happens in any way, shape, or form.

The modern democratic party is nothing more than a bunch of ill-informed socialists who are mad for power. I also think, the American people enjoy more freedom under a republican administration, as the democrats love the idea of using the police and military against the citizenry. The republicans in power might be a bad deal if you are eurotrash or a rag-head, but I'm comfortable with that. I don't like most of them anyways.
 
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The modern democratic party is nothing more than a bunch of ill-informed socialists who are mad for power. I also think, the American people enjoy more freedom under a republican administration, as the democrats love the idea of using the police and military against the citizenry. The republicans in power might be a bad deal if you are eurotrash or a rag-head, but I'm comfortable with that. I don't like most of them anyways.

Oh come on! Keep the slurs to yourself.
 
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I am sorry we do not agree. I do not like to see people prosecuted simply to up a conviction rating. This is all to common. I consider this type of thing a sham and I compare it to the kangaroot courts of nazi Germany. My comparisson is valid. You have a nice life as well.

The first thing the Nazi's did was to nationalize all the German industry and everything else they could get their hands on. That's totally counter to "right wing" conservative thinking. I think you are confusing "right wing" with "anti communist" or "nationalist", which the Nazi's certainly were. Read up on it and you will find that Nazi ideology is startlingly similar to the American left wing hippie ideology of today, ...minus the nationalism.

The nationalism part is what makes it confusing for most folks these days.
 
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The modern democratic party is nothing more than a bunch of ill-informed socialists who are mad for power. I also think, the American people enjoy more freedom under a republican administration, as the democrats love the idea of using the police and military against the citizenry. The republicans in power might be a bad deal if you are eurotrash or a rag-head, but I'm comfortable with that. I don't like most of them anyways.

The modern republican party is nothing more than a motley colletion of big business sellouts who do not give a damn about the American people. The only people that enjoy republican rule are republican big business owners, republican political sellouts, and their friends and family. The rest (majority) of Americans suffer under republican rule.
 
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WRONG. That attitude sends innocent people to the grave. It's shameful, dispicable, and completely unforgivable.

How is it wrong? You admit to cold blooded killing what the hell do you expect? If you are that stupid? You deserve to be killed and consider it cleaning of the genepool.

They would have to kill me as I would never confess to a crime I did not commit. This is something I have thought long and hard about and you have a basic right to remain silent. That is what you should do if the cops are trying to make you confess to a crime you had nothing to do with esp when it comes to Murder:(
 
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I never claimed the north was innocent....

You just ducked it altogether slamming one region. Quite typical of you but not a new trick

but at least we do not execute mentally retarded prisoners... nor do we add minors to a seperate sex offenders registry (something done by the Nazi scum who run Florida).

No, the north just releases pedophiles after raping children:

A Maryland judge shaved 14 years off a child molester's prison sentence Friday, a ruling that followed the same judge cutting almost 16 years off another molester's sentence in 2008.

In shortening the latest sentence, Circuit Court Judge Eric M. Johnson called Jason Lay a different person than he was five years ago, when he was convicted of making a 4-year-old girl perform sexual acts inside a townhouse in Germantown and sentenced to 30 years.


Case highlights challenges of keeping child molesters safe in prison

Once again the state of Vermont has let a vicious child molester off lightly, and once again a child's life has become a political cover up.

Bennington County, Vt., is a pretty, touristy area that is supposed to be relatively crime free. But 37-year-old Andrew James is a known troublemaker, a man convicted of a violent felony: attacking his wife with a screwdriver in front of his own small children. For that, James served 30 days in jail.

But then James upped the criminal ante and molested a 4-year-old boy. After cutting a deal with prosecutor Andrew Costello, James pleaded guilty, and Judge David Howard sentenced him to probation and mandatory "treatment," which means this monster is walking around free right now.


Vermont's Shame by Bill O'Reilly on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent

Do you want to continue this embarrassment focusing only on one region of the US or have you learned your lesson yet?

ALso ... mentioning the Colombine masacre, something unrealted to the topic, was truly and absolutely tasteless, and you should be ashamed of yourself. It was NOT state sactioned. What I was complaing of WAS. There is a fine line between that conversation and the tasteless reference you made to Colombine. Shame on you sir. Tasteless and out line to the end. You're a true republican.

Another fabrication. Why am I not surprised. Take a look at your own bull****

The KKK started in the south, Jim Crow was a governor of a southern state, and the freedom marchers were victimized in the south.

Two of your points had NOTHING to do with state sanctioned policy so once again you are caught red handed in another fabrication about your own words. You really should read your own posts more often and lesson your embarrassment.

For the record, since the death penalty was reinstated in 1976, no state has executed more inmates than Texas.

Article here: Texas reporter's seen unrivaled number of U.S. executions - CNN.com.

AND PROUD OF IT. We don't coddle murderers and rapists. You might like that but we don't.

While no state is innocent, Texas and some other southern states went out of their way to be and stay corrupt. This phenominon started when SOUTHERN PLANTATION OWNERS kidnapped people from Africa and used them for slave labor.

I see you cowardly ducked all the Indian massacres that occurred in the north as I quoted. What, do those people don't count to you?

Here's a look at justice in the south:

Freedom Riders were Civil Rights activists that rode interstate buses into the segregated southern United States to test the United States Supreme Court decision Boynton v. Virginia (of 1960).[1] The first Freedom Ride left Washington, D.C., on May 4, 1961, and was scheduled to arrive in New Orleans on May 17.[2]

Here's a look at justice in the north.

On Sunday, July 12, the names of the draftees drawn the day before by the Provost Marshall were published in newspapers. Within hours, groups of irate citizens, many of them Irish immigrants, banded together across the city. Eventually numbering some 50,000 people, the mob terrorized neighborhoods on the East Side of New York for three days looting scores of stores. Blacks were the targets of most attacks on citizens; several lynchings and beatings occurred. In addition, a black church and orphanage were burned to the ground.
All in all, the mob caused more than $1.5 million of damage. The number killed or wounded during the riot is unknown, but estimates range from two dozen to nearly 100. Eventually, Lincoln deployed combat troops from the Federal Army of the Potomac to restore order; they remained encamped around the city for several weeks. In the end, the draft raised only about 150,000 troops throughout the North, about three-quarters of them substitutes, amounting to just one-fifth of the total Union force.


The New York Draft Riots

Your bigotry against the south and ignorance of northern atrocities are shameful. You should be embarrassed at your severe lack of knowledge of history.

Once again we show that racism is not something the south enjoys alone blowing away your ignorant focus on only southerners.

The Freedom Riders set out to challenge this status quo by riding various forms of public transportation in the South to challenge local laws or customs that enforced segregation. The Freedom Rides, and the violent reactions they provoked, bolstered the credibility of the American Civil Rights Movement and called national attention to the violent disregard for the law that was used to enforce segregation in the southern United States. Riders were arrested for trespassing, unlawful assembly, and violating state and local Jim Crow laws, along with other alleged offenses...

Between 1820 and 1850, Northern blacks also became the frequent targets of mob violence. Whites looted, tore down, and burned black homes, churches, schools, and meeting halls. They stoned, beat, and sometimes murdered blacks. Philadelphia was the site of the worst and most frequent mob violence. City officials there generally refused to protect African Americans from white mobs and blamed blacks for inciting the violence with their "uppity" behavior. (Public Broadcasting Service Resource Bank. Race-based legislation in the North 1807 – 1850)

Once again proving racism history exists in the south AND the north

Chronology On The History Of Slavery And Racism 1830 To The End

The United States Supreme Court's decision in Boynton v. Virginia granted interstate travelers the legal right to disregard local segregation ordinances regarding interstate transportation facilities. But the Freedom Riders' rights were not enforced, and their actions were considered criminal acts throughout most of the South. For example, upon the Riders' arrival in Mississippi, their journey ended with imprisonment for exercising their legal rights in interstate travel. Similar arrests took place in other Southern cities.

Article: Freedom Rides - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The president-elect's eyes twinkled and he said he was reminded of a story. According to eyewitness Henry Villard, President-elect Abraham Lincoln "told the story of the Kentucky Justice of the Peace whose first case was a criminal prosecution for the abuse of slaves. Unable to find any precedent, he exclaimed angrily: `I will be damned if I don't feel almost sorry for being elected when the niggers is the first thing I have to attend to.'"

This story, shocking as it may sound to Lincoln admirers, was in character. For the president-elect had never shown any sincere sympathy for Blacks, and none of his cronies was surprised to hear him suggest that he shared the viewpoint of the reluctant and biased justice of the peace. As for the N-word, everybody knew that old Abe used it all the time, both in public and in private. (Since Lincoln supporters are in a state of constant denial, I have not used elision in reporting his use of the offensive word n--r.)


Did Lincoln REALLY Free The Slaves? - Excerpt | Ebony | Find Articles at BNET

The President from the north could have cared less about African Americans.

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Please. You are on a roll embarrassing yourself.

Mississippi Burning:

The Mississippi civil rights workers murders involved the 1964 lynching of three political activists during the American Civil Rights Movement.

The murders of James Chaney, a 21-year-old black man from Meridian, Mississippi; Andrew Goodman, a 20-year-old white Jewish anthropology student from New York; and Michael Schwerner, a 24-year-old white Jewish CORE organizer and former social worker also from New York, symbolized the risks of participating in the Civil Rights Movement in the South during what became known as "Freedom Summer", dedicated to voter registration.

The lynching of the three young men occurred shortly after midnight on June 21, 1964, when they went to investigate the burning of a church that supported civil rights activity. James Chaney was a local Freedom Movement activist in Meridian, Michael Schwerner was a CORE organizer from New York, and Andrew Goodman, also from New York, was a Freedom Summer volunteer. The three men had just finished week-long training on the campus of Western College for Women (now part of Miami University), in Oxford, Ohio, regarding strategies on how to register blacks to vote...


On November 8, 1909 a rainy Monday evening in Cairo, Illinois, someone raped and murdered Mary Pelly, a white 24 year old salesclerk. On the following day, the authorities arrest William "Froggie" James, a black man for the murder. The crime whipped the small river town into a furty that culminated with the lynching of two man and exposed the racist and violent reality of this northern state.

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The events in Duluth shocked many, but lynching was hardly new to the north. From 1889 to 1918, at least 219 people were lynched in northern states.5 There have been at least twenty lynching deaths in Minnesota history. Of this number, the only black victims were the three men killed in Duluth on June 15, 1920.6

Duluth Lynchings Online Resource

Once again your ignorance focusing only on southern states is exposed for its laughable premise.

THESE OCCURRED WITH THE BLESSING AND SUPPORT OF CORRUPT SOUTHERN LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL.

Evidence of this is REQUIRED. Not a wiki link anyone can update. Back this up with FACTS. Lets see it.

Aticle: Mississippi civil rights workers murders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In then end, I admited my state and most others were less than innocent. You didn't have the courage to do the same.

Another fabrication. Why am I not surprised.

My quote:

Get off your high horse and get back down to actual facts. ALL States and regions of America have their fair share of violence and for you to so willingly display your utter incompetence in this area is just another indictation that you really need to read more and talk less.

All states INCLUDES TEXAS. Seriously, do you ever read carefully or do you just enjoy embarrassing yourself over and over again?

All you did was spread republicanazi propaganda and take a completely tasteless shot at me by reference the Colombine incident.

LOL You call me tasteless after you lump in Texas with every racist insult you can muster? Face it Columbine IS part of YOUR states history. You can't run from it and your reaction was priceless when I smacked you with the reality of it and for that I thank you :)

You call my logic laughable, yet you didn't have the courage to own up. That is a serious character flaw on your part.

I've already exposed this lie of yours once. You really need to read what I have written instead of embarrassing yourself once again.

Every one of your points was countered with an incident of racism or violence in the north. Until you can let go of your bigotry against the south and admit racism is found everywhere you will never grow as an adult and certainly will never learn.
 
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You just ducked it altogether slamming one region. Quite typical of you but not a new trick

I said the north was not innocent. I never tried to hide anything. That is a southern avoidance tactic that will not work. As usual, you fail.

No, the north just releases pedophiles after raping children:

A Maryland judge shaved 14 years off a child molester's prison sentence Friday, a ruling that followed the same judge cutting almost 16 years off another molester's sentence in 2008.

In shortening the latest sentence, Circuit Court Judge Eric M. Johnson called Jason Lay a different person than he was five years ago, when he was convicted of making a 4-year-old girl perform sexual acts inside a townhouse in Germantown and sentenced to 30 years.


Case highlights challenges of keeping child molesters safe in prison

Once again the state of Vermont has let a vicious child molester off lightly, and once again a child's life has become a political cover up.

Bennington County, Vt., is a pretty, touristy area that is supposed to be relatively crime free. But 37-year-old Andrew James is a known troublemaker, a man convicted of a violent felony: attacking his wife with a screwdriver in front of his own small children. For that, James served 30 days in jail.

But then James upped the criminal ante and molested a 4-year-old boy. After cutting a deal with prosecutor Andrew Costello, James pleaded guilty, and Judge David Howard sentenced him to probation and mandatory "treatment," which means this monster is walking around free right now.


Vermont's Shame by Bill O'Reilly on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent

Do you want to continue this embarrassment focusing only on one region of the US or have you learned your lesson yet?

Actually, we put them in prison. We do not execute them. That is a southern bloodlust thing.


Two of your points had NOTHING to do with state sanctioned policy so once again you are caught red handed in another fabrication about your own words. You really should read your own posts more often and lesson your embarrassment.

AND PROUD OF IT. We don't coddle murderers and rapists. You might like that but we don't.

You fabrication at all. You call the truth a lie because you do not want to hear it.

We put bad people in prison; we do not put them to death. That way if they turn out to be innocent that can be released on compensated.

I see you cowardly ducked all the Indian massacres that occurred in the north as I quoted. What, do those people don't count to you?

AGAIN .... as I stated THE NORTH IS NOT INNOCENT. We came to terms with our mistakes and we're dealing with them. The south has not yet reached that point.

Here's a look at justice in the north.

On Sunday, July 12, the names of the draftees drawn the day before by the Provost Marshall were published in newspapers. Within hours, groups of irate citizens, many of them Irish immigrants, banded together across the city. Eventually numbering some 50,000 people, the mob terrorized neighborhoods on the East Side of New York for three days looting scores of stores. Blacks were the targets of most attacks on citizens; several lynchings and beatings occurred. In addition, a black church and orphanage were burned to the ground.
All in all, the mob caused more than $1.5 million of damage. The number killed or wounded during the riot is unknown, but estimates range from two dozen to nearly 100. Eventually, Lincoln deployed combat troops from the Federal Army of the Potomac to restore order; they remained encamped around the city for several weeks. In the end, the draft raised only about 150,000 troops throughout the North, about three-quarters of them substitutes, amounting to just one-fifth of the total Union force.


The New York Draft Riots

Your bigotry against the south and ignorance of northern atrocities are shameful. You should be embarrassed at your severe lack of knowledge of history.

As I am said THREE TIMES ... I am WELL aware the north is not innocent. Apparently, you missed it that last few times I said it.

As to history, your states conservanazis made up their own history when they re-wrote the history texts used in schools. That being said, you are not entitled to lecture ANYBODY on ANY part of history. You state didn't like what was there so they made up their own.

Once again we show that racism is not something the south enjoys alone blowing away your ignorant focus on only southerners.

I focus on haters, bigots, and corrupters. I cannot help the fact there is (or at least was) an abundance of them in the south.

Between 1820 and 1850, Northern blacks also became the frequent targets of mob violence. Whites looted, tore down, and burned black homes, churches, schools, and meeting halls. They stoned, beat, and sometimes murdered blacks. Philadelphia was the site of the worst and most frequent mob violence. City officials there generally refused to protect African Americans from white mobs and blamed blacks for inciting the violence with their "uppity" behavior. (Public Broadcasting Service Resource Bank. Race-based legislation in the North 1807 – 1850)

Those actions were deplorable.

Once again proving racism history exists in the south AND the north

Chronology On The History Of Slavery And Racism 1830 To The End

The United States Supreme Court's decision in Boynton v. Virginia granted interstate travelers the legal right to disregard local segregation ordinances regarding interstate transportation facilities. But the Freedom Riders' rights were not enforced, and their actions were considered criminal acts throughout most of the South. For example, upon the Riders' arrival in Mississippi, their journey ended with imprisonment for exercising their legal rights in interstate travel. Similar arrests took place in other Southern cities.

Article: Freedom Rides - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The president-elect's eyes twinkled and he said he was reminded of a story. According to eyewitness Henry Villard, President-elect Abraham Lincoln "told the story of the Kentucky Justice of the Peace whose first case was a criminal prosecution for the abuse of slaves. Unable to find any precedent, he exclaimed angrily: `I will be damned if I don't feel almost sorry for being elected when the niggers is the first thing I have to attend to.'"


Those people were ignorant and their crimes were deplorable. I never denied that.

I guess I just want to see the veil of racism fall. I am only human. I want my children to grow up without knowing race hate.

Honestly, I have enjoyed this debate with you sir. You are a noble apponent.

Vader
 
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