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    Elena Kagan news: Sen. Jeff Sessions calls Kagan a 'dangerous' nominee

    WASHINGTON -- Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan picked up more GOP backing Wednesday in her drive toward near-certain confirmation next week, even as a top Republican lashed out at her as "dangerous."

    Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, the senior Republican on the Judiciary Committee, warned senators in unusually dire terms against voting for President Barack Obama's choice, saying, "Be careful about it, because I'm afraid that we have a dangerous, progressive, political-type nominee."

    Sessions' words of caution - he said they were primarily directed toward Democrats - came just hours after Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine became the fourth Republican to say she would break with her party to vote for Kagan, who's in line to succeed retired Justice John Paul Stevens.

    Democrats already have more than enough votes to confirm her.

    In a statement, Snowe said Kagan had met her standard for a justice, "with the strong intellect, respect for the rule of law, and understanding of the important but limited role of the Supreme Court that I believe is required." She said endorsements from leading lawyers, including prominent conservatives, had persuaded her that Kagan had the judicial temperament for the job.

    Sessions, however, quoted Obama allies describing Kagan as someone who shares his political views, and argued she would be a liberal rubber stamp for Obama's policies.

    "I don't think the American people are going to hold harmless those who vote to impose a legal progressive, activist legislator from the bench upon them," Sessions said.

    Elena Kagan news: Sen. Jeff Sessions calls Kagan a 'dangerous' nominee
    YouTube - Sessions to Dem Senators: Don't Rubberstamp Kagan Nomination for Obama


    So, Is Sessions right? Is Kagen really nothing more than a mirror of Obama's ideological, and purely political appointment? She will serve for decades, will her vote be constitutionally based, or will she vote strictly along "Progressive" lines? And doesn't the sitting President have the right to appoint anyone he wants?


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    Re: Elena Kagan news: Sen. Jeff Sessions calls Kagan a 'dangerous' nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    YouTube - Sessions to Dem Senators: Don't Rubberstamp Kagan Nomination for Obama


    So, Is Sessions right? Is Kagen really nothing more than a mirror of Obama's ideological, and purely political appointment? She will serve for decades, will her vote be constitutionally based, or will she vote strictly along "Progressive" lines? And doesn't the sitting President have the right to appoint anyone he wants?


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    The last question you raise interests me. Should Congress vote no on purely ideological bases or should they have some real practical reason to vote no (such as the person proves to have a criminal record or otherwise have ethics problems)?

    I go back and forth on that question, honestly. On one hand, you kind of expect a President to appoint people who agree with him politically. I mean, duh. Bush certainly appointed only conservatives, so why is it a surprise that Obama will appoint only liberals?

    On the other hand, is the Constitution meant to be a situation where the Senate is supposed to work with the President to choose someone, or is it just a "checks and balance" to make sure the appointments aren't ridiculous (like when Nixon wanted to appoint a southern racist)?

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    Re: Elena Kagan news: Sen. Jeff Sessions calls Kagan a 'dangerous' nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post

    So, Is Sessions right?
    No, I don't think he is, any more than any of Bush's appointments where dangerous rubber stamps for Bush. Asking for a nonpolitical judge is probably unrealistic.

    Is Kagen really nothing more than a mirror of Obama's ideological, and purely political appointment?
    All SCOTUS nominees are to an extent political. She is no moreso than any other. As best I can tell, she is a liberal, so will be similar to Obama in her political beliefs, but I think you would be hard pressed to find any two liberals who 100 % mirror each others beliefs.

    She will serve for decades, will her vote be constitutionally based, or will she vote strictly along "Progressive" lines?
    We do not know this about any candidate until they get the job. She looks no more likely to rule poorly than any other nominee.

    And doesn't the sitting President have the right to appoint anyone he wants?


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    Re: Elena Kagan news: Sen. Jeff Sessions calls Kagan a 'dangerous' nominee

    The nominee said herself that these confirmations and the rhetoric that surrounds them were a joke. She's going to get appointed, just as Bush's choices were appointed, while the opposite side of the isle in both cases gets some rhetoric in.
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    Re: Elena Kagan news: Sen. Jeff Sessions calls Kagan a 'dangerous' nominee

    Kagan is about as far left as they get but since she is replacing another far out lefty it won't effect the balance of the court.......
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    Re: Elena Kagan news: Sen. Jeff Sessions calls Kagan a 'dangerous' nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Kagan is about as far left as they get but since she is replacing another far out lefty it won't effect the balance of the court.......
    You are hilarious Navy....Kagan isn't even close to being far left...why do you think the left-wing wasn't very happy with her selection?

    Obama wimped out on both choices....picking left-leaning moderates....but then....Obama is a moderate anyway....so it ws not unexpected.
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    Re: Elena Kagan news: Sen. Jeff Sessions calls Kagan a 'dangerous' nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    it won't effect the balance of the court.......
    That's true Navy...but the really good thing that comes out of this....it prevent the right-wing from being able to advance their right-wing agenda. Obama saved the Supreme Court from falling into the hands of extremists....I thank GOD every day for that. The one chance that the right-wing had to take over the court within the next couple of decades was in the last election. Now...when Ginsburg retires Obama will further cement it with another young justice....most likely another moderate, but at least it will push the right-wing further back from getting their activist right-wing court.
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    Re: Elena Kagan news: Sen. Jeff Sessions calls Kagan a 'dangerous' nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    YouTube - Sessions to Dem Senators: Don't Rubberstamp Kagan Nomination for Obama


    So, Is Sessions right? Is Kagen really nothing more than a mirror of Obama's ideological, and purely political appointment? She will serve for decades, will her vote be constitutionally based, or will she vote strictly along "Progressive" lines? And doesn't the sitting President have the right to appoint anyone he wants?


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    Supreme Court - Stevens + Kagan = shift to right (under Democratic president). The Conservs should declare victory and move on.

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    Re: Elena Kagan news: Sen. Jeff Sessions calls Kagan a 'dangerous' nominee

    The 2nd Amendment barely survived a 5 to 4 vote. I would say that Kagan is a very dangerous nominee.

    There's something very wrong with one of our most basic rights is that close to no longer being one of our most basic rights.
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    Re: Elena Kagan news: Sen. Jeff Sessions calls Kagan a 'dangerous' nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    That's true Navy...but the really good thing that comes out of this....it prevent the right-wing from being able to advance their right-wing agenda. Obama saved the Supreme Court from falling into the hands of extremists....I thank GOD every day for that. The one chance that the right-wing had to take over the court within the next couple of decades was in the last election. Now...when Ginsburg retires Obama will further cement it with another young justice....most likely another moderate, but at least it will push the right-wing further back from getting their activist right-wing court.
    anyone who calls Alito or roberts extremists is extremely ignorant about the court and the state of jurisprudence.

    Kagan is a moderate to someone like you.



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