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One in five Californians say they need mental health care

The Dane said:
So California is a bad place because of a single movie and because Los Angeles decided not to keep the Raiders?

BAHAHA
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Well don't forget the Rams either ;).
Personally, I think Hollywood is not an example of something great. And I am not talking about the movies per sey, just the culture and image Hollywood projects to the world. If anything, its a prime example of the wrong direction to go in as a country.

But hey, I can't expect a people that build their houses on the side of a cliff, along an active fault line next to ignitable brush to see these things for what they are.:)
 
rathi said:
California is not having problems with businesses leaving. It is a prime location for companies built around cutting-technologies of all kinds. Our financial straits come from 2 problems. First, we bet the farm on the housing bubble, and we lost a ton of tax revenue from the collapse. Second, the cowards in Sacramento refused to raise taxes, cut spending or do anything to balance the budget. The Govenator gave his best shot but was unable to get it done. Voters also compounded the problem by voting all kinds of spending on the ballot system without paying for it.
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Really? So why was a summit held in Nevada to determine the reasons businesses are leaving California? And then from the EZ Policy blog, 84 more businesses have fled California this year so far.

California has a major systemic issue when it comes to revenues in addition to the random circumstantial issues like the housing bubble collapse: it is an inhospitable business climate and it is widely known to be one at this point. Businesses aren't moving in and businesses that are here are moving out.
 
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Really? So why was a summit held in Nevada to determine the reasons businesses are leaving California?
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Because the California GOP wanted to score political points.

And then from the EZ Policy blog, 84 more businesses have fled California this year so far.
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California has not substantially changed its business regulations in the last year. That makes them unlikely to be the cause. Also, you are not considering the offsetting growth of how many new companies were incorporated in California this year either.

California has a major systemic issue when it comes to revenues in addition to the random circumstantial issues like the housing bubble collapse: it is an inhospitable business climate and it is widely known to be one at this point. Businesses aren't moving in and businesses that are here are moving out.
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I won't deny that California has some obnoxious laws that needlessly punish business, but they are not cause of budget woes. The state had plenty of money and a booming economy with the same business regulations we have today. The housing market was more than random circumstance, it was an economic calamity centered primarily around local housing markets. The citizens, government and corporations all screwed up big and now we are going to have to deal with the consequences. The politicians deserve scorn for failing to handle the emergency, but they are not the primary cause of it either.
 
rathi said:
Because the California GOP wanted to score political points.
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Ohhh, so its that damned GOP again creating these numbers, up and ousting businesses with taxes, punative regulatory charges, etc. Glad you cleared that up.

California has not substantially changed its business regulations in the last year. That makes them unlikely to be the cause. Also, you are not considering the offsetting growth of how many new companies were incorporated in California this year either.
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OK, I got stats for how many companies left, shut down, or sent growth elsewhere. Can you present similar stats for growth?

I won't deny that California has some obnoxious laws that needlessly punish business, but they are not cause of budget woes. The state had plenty of money and a booming economy with the same business regulations we have today.
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But today's business climate is not the same...and that is causing a huge exodus of businesses from California. The numbers are pure and don't lie. :shrug:

The housing market was more than random circumstance, it was an economic calamity centered primarily around local housing markets. The citizens, government and corporations all screwed up big and now we are going to have to deal with the consequences. The politicians deserve scorn for failing to handle the emergency, but they are not the primary cause of it either.
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That doesn't seem to be what business owners were saying concerning why they move their operations. :shrug:
 
Aunt Spiker said:
When will people (Americans in particular) understand and just accept that being unhappy is just part of life?

The sooner many people let go of their fairytale notions of what life *should be* and accept what life *is* then we'd see a lot less miserable people floating around claiming to be depressed and suffering from other issues.
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A hundred years ago, the same could've been said about having all of one's teeth rot out before age fifty.
It was just part of life. It was the human condition.
In this age of fluoridated water, adequate nutrition, dental floss, regular dental checkups and toothpaste affordable enough for all citizens, losing one's teeth is no longer considered a normal part of life at any age, let alone in the first half of life. It's exceedingly uncommon today.

There are a lot of similarly universal conditions (which, in the past, people just lived with and considered a normal part of life) which have now been all but eradicated by modern medical science.

Why not sadness? :shrug:
 
The Dane said:
Those all happend in differen't states. If your argument is that social change happens largely in California, and OTHER places. That's fine :D
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The tax revolt began in California.
 
Crunch said:
Oh ****!!!!!!!!!!.... you mean gang banging as a way of life is going to spread clear across the rest of the country?

I lived in Sacramento for a year and a half... just the thought of that many people in that small of an area makes me itch.
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Gang banging isn't a way of life. It's a adolescent phase. Even gang bangers stop "banging" once they get past their early twenties, except for the small percentage that like to remain ignorant through out their life.

Sacramento is actually pretty wide spread compared to San Francisco, LA, Orange County. Even San Diego is pretty spread out thanks to all the hills.
 
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