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    Re: One in five Californians say they need mental health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    My company closed shop on their LA operation.
    Completely understand.
    Probably because you can hardly get anyone to live here. The illegal population has turned it into another Tijuana. Legitimate business owners can't compete because illegals are now hiring other illegals. Taxes are beyond acceptable and you need a permit to do anything. Add to that the overcrowding, the congestion, and the pollution...the filth, the homeless problem, and the residual gang violence and this place should just be nuked off the map and start over.

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    Re: One in five Californians say they need mental health care

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dane View Post
    Yeah what a real good argument. California sucks because business and house ownership sucks amidst a recession caused by a housing bubble. What a reaeaaaalllll ****ing sound argument. All those other points I made are just irrelevant huh, worthy of emoticon responses.

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    You didn't make any ****ing points. You went all cheerleader and then foamed at the mouth for a bit. What did you want me to say?

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    Re: One in five Californians say they need mental health care

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    You didn't make any ****ing points. You went all cheerleader and then foamed at the mouth for a bit. What did you want me to say?
    Your little business in Los Angeles, or the individual accounts of others does not speak for the economic climate of California. It still has the largest economy in the country.
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    Re: One in five Californians say they need mental health care

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dane View Post
    Your little business in Los Angeles, or the individual accounts of others does not speak for the economic climate of California. It still has the largest economy in the country.
    Ummm, if you'd ****ing read a damned thing I had written, you'd notice I spoke in a broad sense about businesses leaving california.

    And I know you aren't going to sit here and try to tell me that California isn't in dire financial straits...you aren't even that oblivious and stupid.

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    Re: One in five Californians say they need mental health care

    California is not having problems with businesses leaving. It is a prime location for companies built around cutting-technologies of all kinds. Our financial straits come from 2 problems. First, we bet the farm on the housing bubble, and we lost a ton of tax revenue from the collapse. Second, the cowards in Sacramento refused to raise taxes, cut spending or do anything to balance the budget. The Govenator gave his best shot but was unable to get it done. Voters also compounded the problem by voting all kinds of spending on the ballot system without paying for it.

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    Re: One in five Californians say they need mental health care

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dane View Post
    So California is a bad place because of a single movie and because Los Angeles decided not to keep the Raiders?

    BAHAHA
    Well don't forget the Rams either .
    Personally, I think Hollywood is not an example of something great. And I am not talking about the movies per sey, just the culture and image Hollywood projects to the world. If anything, its a prime example of the wrong direction to go in as a country.

    But hey, I can't expect a people that build their houses on the side of a cliff, along an active fault line next to ignitable brush to see these things for what they are.
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    Re: One in five Californians say they need mental health care

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    California is not having problems with businesses leaving. It is a prime location for companies built around cutting-technologies of all kinds. Our financial straits come from 2 problems. First, we bet the farm on the housing bubble, and we lost a ton of tax revenue from the collapse. Second, the cowards in Sacramento refused to raise taxes, cut spending or do anything to balance the budget. The Govenator gave his best shot but was unable to get it done. Voters also compounded the problem by voting all kinds of spending on the ballot system without paying for it.
    Really? So why was a summit held in Nevada to determine the reasons businesses are leaving California? And then from the EZ Policy blog, 84 more businesses have fled California this year so far.

    California has a major systemic issue when it comes to revenues in addition to the random circumstantial issues like the housing bubble collapse: it is an inhospitable business climate and it is widely known to be one at this point. Businesses aren't moving in and businesses that are here are moving out.
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    Re: One in five Californians say they need mental health care

    Really? So why was a summit held in Nevada to determine the reasons businesses are leaving California?
    Because the California GOP wanted to score political points.

    And then from the EZ Policy blog, 84 more businesses have fled California this year so far.
    California has not substantially changed its business regulations in the last year. That makes them unlikely to be the cause. Also, you are not considering the offsetting growth of how many new companies were incorporated in California this year either.

    California has a major systemic issue when it comes to revenues in addition to the random circumstantial issues like the housing bubble collapse: it is an inhospitable business climate and it is widely known to be one at this point. Businesses aren't moving in and businesses that are here are moving out.
    I won't deny that California has some obnoxious laws that needlessly punish business, but they are not cause of budget woes. The state had plenty of money and a booming economy with the same business regulations we have today. The housing market was more than random circumstance, it was an economic calamity centered primarily around local housing markets. The citizens, government and corporations all screwed up big and now we are going to have to deal with the consequences. The politicians deserve scorn for failing to handle the emergency, but they are not the primary cause of it either.

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    Re: One in five Californians say they need mental health care

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Because the California GOP wanted to score political points.
    Ohhh, so its that damned GOP again creating these numbers, up and ousting businesses with taxes, punative regulatory charges, etc. Glad you cleared that up.

    California has not substantially changed its business regulations in the last year. That makes them unlikely to be the cause. Also, you are not considering the offsetting growth of how many new companies were incorporated in California this year either.
    OK, I got stats for how many companies left, shut down, or sent growth elsewhere. Can you present similar stats for growth?

    I won't deny that California has some obnoxious laws that needlessly punish business, but they are not cause of budget woes. The state had plenty of money and a booming economy with the same business regulations we have today.
    But today's business climate is not the same...and that is causing a huge exodus of businesses from California. The numbers are pure and don't lie.

    The housing market was more than random circumstance, it was an economic calamity centered primarily around local housing markets. The citizens, government and corporations all screwed up big and now we are going to have to deal with the consequences. The politicians deserve scorn for failing to handle the emergency, but they are not the primary cause of it either.
    That doesn't seem to be what business owners were saying concerning why they move their operations.

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    Re: One in five Californians say they need mental health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    When will people (Americans in particular) understand and just accept that being unhappy is just part of life?

    The sooner many people let go of their fairytale notions of what life *should be* and accept what life *is* then we'd see a lot less miserable people floating around claiming to be depressed and suffering from other issues.

    A hundred years ago, the same could've been said about having all of one's teeth rot out before age fifty.
    It was just part of life. It was the human condition.
    In this age of fluoridated water, adequate nutrition, dental floss, regular dental checkups and toothpaste affordable enough for all citizens, losing one's teeth is no longer considered a normal part of life at any age, let alone in the first half of life. It's exceedingly uncommon today.

    There are a lot of similarly universal conditions (which, in the past, people just lived with and considered a normal part of life) which have now been all but eradicated by modern medical science.

    Why not sadness?

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