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    Re: Obama pleads with Republicans on small business bill

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    costs the government--are you kidding? every bit of wealth the government doesn't take apparently costs the government.

    People like Paris Hilton pay far far more taxes than they use

    where do we get people who whine that the government doesn't take enough wealth>

    we get in from the creation of an entitlement mentality that other people have a duty to fund their existence.

    NO ONE SHOULD BE SUBJECTED TO AN ESTATE TAX. They have already been taxed plenty if they leave enough to be subjected to the death confiscation tax.
    The estate tax is the most egregious, and dishonest tax of all.
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    Re: Obama pleads with Republicans on small business bill

    Which bill is this, exactly -there are countless "small business growth" related bills - which one *is this one* exactly . . . I hate it when articles *don't* refer to the bill number or official title. (and then people bitch about supporters not reading the bill - I swear there's an extreme effort aimed at distancing people from these bills we're suppose to support).
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    Re: Obama pleads with Republicans on small business bill

    I think most people that bitch about the government taxing the rich don't understand just how goddamn easy it is for the rich to keep getting richer. Do you know how much people make off of dividends and just having a ****load of money in the bank in the first place? The rich probably make more off of interest than your average $40-50k American makes in a year.

    Why is it that Teabaggers (lol @ that term) love to defend the rich? Seriously can someone please enlighten me on this, or do they just think that someday they will wake up and magically be making $300k a year and are covering their asses right now?

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    Re: Obama pleads with Republicans on small business bill

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    I think most people that bitch about the government taxing the rich don't understand just how goddamn easy it is for the rich to keep getting richer. Do you know how much people make off of dividends and just having a ****load of money in the bank in the first place? The rich probably make more off of interest than your average $40-50k American makes in a year.

    Why is it that Teabaggers (lol @ that term) love to defend the rich? Seriously can someone please enlighten me on this, or do they just think that someday they will wake up and magically be making $300k a year and are covering their asses right now?
    First of all, you don't have to be making $300,000 a year to be considered "rich" by the current administration.

    You also gloss over the fact that the money in the bank was earned somewhere along the way. I see no reason to confiscate more of someone's hard earned money because they invested it well and get a good return. That is irrelevent.

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    Re: Obama pleads with Republicans on small business bill

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    I think most people that bitch about the government taxing the rich don't understand just how goddamn easy it is for the rich to keep getting richer. Do you know how much people make off of dividends and just having a ****load of money in the bank in the first place? The rich probably make more off of interest than your average $40-50k American makes in a year.

    Why is it that Teabaggers (lol @ that term) love to defend the rich? Seriously can someone please enlighten me on this, or do they just think that someday they will wake up and magically be making $300k a year and are covering their asses right now?
    Using that term just makes you look impish.

    I've heard just as many liberals 'defend the rich' - so it's not a partisan sentiment.
    It's a sentiment of personal belief or value - just as many liberals believe in making it rich and reaping their earnings as do many others.

    The difference is whether or not *other people* are entitled to *your money* by proxy
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    Re: Obama pleads with Republicans on small business bill

    Is this the bill in discussion? (please correct me if it's not)

    HR 5297

    Basically - it's yet *another* bailout for the banks . . . isn't that what TARP was suppose to do? Free up their burden so people could *borrow* money? And *did* it work already?

    No - it didn't work.
    No - they didn't start lending more money.

    The money for TARP wasn't even applied as was first touted to everyone - so it was useless. This is just extending those useless and pointless actions.

    Also - when the economy is in the ****ter and *no one has money to spend* then *how* can starting or furthering a *business* via a *loan* be a good idea? How are they going to generate the money to pay the loan back?
    I think getting loans when the economy is so tight is the wrong thing to encourage.

    Further - as with TARP - it left regulations of how the money is dispersed up to the Treasurer which was a horrible idea when the Republicans proposed it and is still a horrible idea.
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