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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dane View Post
    Bull****, a judge disagrees with your racist based policies, its against the law and got struck down.
    Racist how so?

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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Good luck enforcing the law WITHOUT racially profiling when the majority of illegals are mexican. And the majority of mexicans are legal.

    I wonder how the legal mexicans feel about this.
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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Well, the 2 "hispanic Americans" that I used to work with want the illegals gone, but both of those were college educated and had very good jobs and paid a lot of taxes that got misused to support the illegals........
    Beats me why the less well off hispanics want the illegals here, they are competing for the lesser skilled jobs...
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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    1) What part of "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land;" don't you understand?
    The Constitution does not give the federal government the power to do anything it wants. There are definate limits on federal power, even if the Courts have expanded them to beyond any limit that would be recognized by the Founding Fathers...

    2) Enforcing Federal law is one thing, but adding new terms and conditions to Federal law, such as requiring "papers", is not allowed, as that would change the Federal law, thus violating the supremacy clause of Article VI.
    How does this change federal law? All alien residents in the U.S. are required to carry their documents at all times ... even if many don't. Also, how is the supremacy clause violated if the State of Arizona is regulating the activities of illegal residents in their own state?
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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Why stop with Obama? Take it to Bush and all the presidents preceeding as well. Unless, of course, Obama gives them amnesty like Reagan did.
    Actually, remember that the Democrats passed the law before Reagan signed it -- somethign he shouldn't have done, but it isn't as simple as saying Reagan gave them amnesty... no president has that solitary power...
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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Actually, remember that the Democrats passed the law before Reagan signed it -- somethign he shouldn't have done, but it isn't as simple as saying Reagan gave them amnesty... no president has that solitary power...
    No.

    The Messiah could, tomorrow, issue a blanket amnesty to all Invaders, just as That Idiot Carter gave amnesty to the Vietnam draft dodgers.

    It probably won't be done because the political fallout would end some Democrat careers, but it's an option the Messiah might push.

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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    1) What part of "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land;" don't you understand?

    2) Enforcing Federal law is one thing, but adding new terms and conditions to Federal law, such as requiring "papers", is not allowed, as that would change the Federal law, thus violating the supremacy clause of Article VI.
    Well, that's an interesting take.

    Cite the paragraphs of the federal law that prohibit the states from acting to assist the federal government in identifying and detaining illegal aliens in the state who are violating federal immigration law, pending further action on the detained criminals by the fedeal authorities.

    What new terms were added by Arizona to extant federal immigration law?

    Be specific in your response.
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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    More on topic, why are cities like SF allowed to be "sanctuary cities"?
    Because politicians don't want to enforce the law, and the people keep voting for those politicians, mostly because the people are stupid and this is clear evidence that too many people are allowed to vote who should not, and I'm not talking about the illegal aliens here.

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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    couple of things here. The AZ law is not like the federal law. The AZ law made it a misdemeanor to be in the AZ illegally. The Federal law makes it is an administrive crime, not a misdemeanor or felony, unless they are deported and return illegally, then it is a felony. Police officers are still required to enforce federal immigration laws, and if arrested in AZ, you get checked if you are incarcerated by MCSO 287g officers. Sheriff Joe don't need this law to do the high publized raids of profile and minor crime arrest to get illegals.

    Next, if you get arrested, and you are here illegally, you don't get deported the next day. You go before a federal judge, he sets a hearing in about a year or two (not exagarating), then you post a bond or are released OR, and you are allowed to remain in the US until your hearing, and you are allowed to work in some case. If the court chooses to deport you. You appeal, you stay in the country for another 3 years. So FOLKS, arresting the illegals makes them legal for about 5 years because as long as they are pending court, they are not required to leave. So, what 1070 does is helps the illegals.

    Next, all the passion that goes into AZ to have their law should be directed at your US Senators and Legislatures. The Tucson Cooridor had DOUBLE the arrests for smugglers and illegal aliens then any other sector, and YET, CARTER, REAGAN, BUSH, CLINTON, BUSH, and OBAMA, have 3 grand officers. The El Paso sector has about half the arrests, and they have 2.5 grand. Precious California gets close to this amount of officers and does not have near the amount of illegal trafficking. WOW. AZ is getting ****ED by the USA, and the US is letting it happen by not putting your USA military on our border to stop the influx of smuggling and illegal immigration. To me that is where the terrorist threat is at.

    Lastly, the GOP and Democrats refuse to budge on finding a solution to this issue. It is going to take a politician with balls to get everyone to the table.
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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    My post was in response to Capt. America's post, that I failed to quote....but here it is...with the best part bolded...

    An OVERWHELMINGLY percentage of Americans support AZ. I wonder what would happen if THEY held their OWN rally's? Screw La Raza.
    Really, where do you get your facts. An overwhelming percentange of Americans support immigration reform, not AZ. Get me an non biased, non right/conservative poll, that speaks to all americans, not just registered GOP, and we'll talk.

    Wow, screw the La Raza? So, if I am pissed at Russel Pearce (drafter of 1070), who is Mormon, you'd be alright with me saying, screw the Mormons?
    Last edited by TBone; 07-31-10 at 07:17 AM.
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