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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The law SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITS this....

    Also, as for supremecy, are you arguing that state governments have ZERO authority to enforce ANY federal law?

    Also, the legislature of AZ was not passing immigration legislation, they were legislating the behavior of illegals already in the state.
    Just to clear something up. (and no, I'm not picking on you )

    Under the Constitution, the federal government does not have any authority over immigration.... just uniform naturalization laws.

    So according to the 10th amendment, immigration falls under the authority of the States.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Which is interesting because the AZ law didn't mandate checking either... Love the tizzy liberals are in over this law. it is like they LIKE illegal immigrants or something...
    Hmmmm.... debatable.

    20 B. FOR ANY LAWFUL CONTACT MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY
    21 OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS
    22 STATE WHERE REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN WHO IS
    23 UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES, A REASONABLE ATTEMPT SHALL BE MADE,
    24 WHEN PRACTICABLE, TO DETERMINE THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERSON.
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    25 PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS SHALL BE VERIFIED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
    26 PURSUANT TO 8 UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1373(c).
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    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Yeah, because the Ninth Circuit isn't very liberal nor does it have much of a record of it itself being overturned by the Supremes, does it?
    Looks like they are right on the money to me....

    From prisoners' rights to environmental protection, laws set by the West's powerful appeals court were overturned in 15 of the 16 cases reviewed this term by the U.S. Supreme Court.
    Read more: Supreme Court overturning numerous 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals rulings

    Uh.... er.... well.... Hmmmmmmmm.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    You know what's actually ironic about this? As long as this litigation goes on, and armies of lawyers, reporters, and other hangers-on storm the place, AZ's tourism dollars are going to skyrocket. So much for the boycotts.
    Despite the threat of widespread travel boycotts tied to the state's strict new immigration law, early results for hotels and resorts in metropolitan Phoenix show little evidence of any short-term impact.

    Hotel occupancy was up 6.5 percent in May and 10.6 percent in June from a year earlier, outpacing national gains, according to Smith Travel Research. Average room rates were flat on an above-average increase in rooms. Revenue per available room, the most closely watched measure, rose 6.2 percent and 11 percent in May and June, respectively.


    Read more: Arizona's immigration law has little impact on Arizona's tourism

    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Are you trying to derail the thread? What part of the Arizona law had anything to do with naturalization?

    (Hint..... the Arizona law is about Illegal immigration.
    Actually naturalization is about immigration.

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    But obviously these MOSTLY racist illegals need to be punted OUT of the US. My family didnt fight in wars for this type of ****.
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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Naturalization pertains to immigration laws..
    Wrong.....

    To enter and settle in a country or region to which one is not native. See Usage Note at migrate.
    v.tr.
    To send or introduce as immigrants:
    immigration - definition of immigration by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

    1. To grant full citizenship to (one of foreign birth).
    2. To adopt (something foreign) into general use.
    3. To adapt or acclimate (a plant or animal) to a new environment; introduce and establish as if native.
    4. To cause to conform to nature.
    v.intr.
    To become naturalized or acclimated; undergo adaptation.
    naturalization - definition of naturalization by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

    Did I really have to point out the difference?... or are you being disingenuous just to support the unsupportable?
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Naturalization is about the immigration into the United States. I could even find more than one reason to declare this unconstitutional but you'd probably care less so I'll let one of the only sane people on Fox news tell you.

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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Uh, no, it was NOT struck down. Enforcement of some of the provisions of the law was enjoined temporarily.

    Which doesn't even matter in this instance, because the law in question in no way authorized what happened in that case.
    Yea, the part of the law requiring people to carry papers proving their citizenship WAS struck down. You didn't know this? And yea, the part of the law struck down did specify that people could go to jail if they didn't have their papers in order. You didn't know this either?
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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Yea, the part of the law requiring people to carry papers proving their citizenship WAS struck down. You didn't know this? And yea, the part of the law struck down did specify that people could go to jail if they didn't have their papers in order. You didn't know this either?
    Care to cite the bill for this? I don't recall seeing it when I read the bill. Maybe I missed it?

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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Actually naturalization is about immigration.

    USCIS Home Page

    But obviously these MOSTLY racist illegals need to be punted OUT of the US. My family didnt fight in wars for this type of ****.
    Your link is the generic USCIS Home Page so doesn't help your point at all.

    It would be more accurate to say that immigration is all about naturalization as people usually immigrate with the idea of becoming citizens of the country they immigrate to.... but the federal right to legislate a uniform law of naturalization does not translate to a federal right to tell the States who and how many can immigrate into their State, that is a State right via the 10th amendment.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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