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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai
    And you would expect anything different from a Clinton appointee?
    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und
    oh I don't know, that the 1st judge upheld it, now this Clinton appointed judge oversteps her authority?

    LOL...I wondered who would be the first to bring up...but..but it was Clinton...LOL


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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Easy there don....We were only discussing a little broader context. Would you agree don, that this fight over SB1070 comes down along party lines?

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    Clearly, there is a partisan/ideological aspect with respect to opinions on the law and the judge's injunction. One can discuss those partisan/ideological differences, but the discussion shouldn't be turned into one about the nature of the general motivations of liberals/conservatives/republicans/democrats.

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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Dude, that's standard procedure. I think she got it wrong, but implementing a PJ pending adjudication happens all the time.
    Doesn't make it right especially on a decesion this big.
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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Easy there don....We were only discussing a little broader context. Would you agree don, that this fight over SB1070 comes down along party lines?

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    No, I'm a registered Democrat but I side with conservatives on this one.

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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    People who are against this bill are either not from Arizona or just extremely ignorant.

    I disagree with that. Most or almost all people against this bill do not want any anti-illegal immigration laws being enforced on the state level.Because anti-illegal immigration laws on the state level are more likely to be enforced. Anti-illegal immigration laws being enforced on the state and local level makes it a lot harder to push amnesty or so-called immigration reform and proves that simply enforcing the laws on the books does work and that the government has been willfully ignoring the problem. It wouldn't matter if sb 1070 said everyone must checked when stopped for a traffic violation, dui check or some other form of lawful police contact , they would still scream racist like a two year old not getting his way. Basically the opposition to SB 1070 is just pro-illegals looking out for their own interests. I only wish that most of these people against SB 1070 were either just ignorant or not from Arizona, then you could have a minute or two long commercial reading part of the bill that allows for the checking of the legal status.
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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
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    Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration lawI want to reduce the risk that this thread will deteriorate to the point where it is closed or so many members receive infractions that the discussion/debate withers. The issue at hand is a significant one with broad ramifications (legal, constitutional, unfunded mandates/fiscal, etc.).

    Clearly, there is a partisan/ideological aspect with respect to opinions on the law and the judge's injunction. One can discuss those partisan/ideological differences, but the discussion shouldn't be turned into one about the nature of the general motivations of liberals/conservatives/republicans/democrats.
    Hence my posting STATING that I didnt think all liberals wore the same nepharious label...

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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    All I know is if States cant even ASK for proper doccumentation, like the TSA does... and goes further than that even.... then we as a Nation are headed for an even steeper decline than before.
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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post

    Article One, Section 8

    To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization
    Are you trying to derail the thread? What part of the Arizona law had anything to do with naturalization?

    (Hint..... the Arizona law is about Illegal immigration.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    LEOs don't check everyone for a potential offense against the law, only people they have a "reasonable suspicion" of doing so. Why should this be any different?
    I can think of one instance where LEOs always check every one for potential offences of the law..... it's called a traffic stop.

    Nothing make a cop look stupider than not calling in for wants and warrants, then finding out later that the person they had stopped was wanted for bank robbery.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Are you trying to derail the thread? What part of the Arizona law had anything to do with naturalization?

    (Hint..... the Arizona law is about Illegal immigration.
    Naturalization pertains to immigration laws..Arizona can perform whatever law they want as long as it doesn't go beyond what federal law has set. This bill goes beyond federal law, the whole thing might not get shot down but key parts of it will be blocked, which has already happened.
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