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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Sure. Not race based.
    being illegally here is not race based. Just because a certain ethnic group has less respect for our laws doesn't mean the law is racist

    Is a law against murder racist since 6% of the population makes up 51% of the people convicted of murder?



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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Why are you directing that question at me?
    So sorry, I mistakenly thought you might be able to provide a sensible and logical answer to my question.
    Please accept my apologies if I have in any way discomforted you.

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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    So sorry, I mistakenly thought you might be able to provide a sensible and logical answer to my question.
    Please accept my apologies if I have in any way discomforted you.
    Well, considering I've been arguing consistently throughout this thread that no law has been struck down or changed, yeah, I'm a bit confused as to why you'd ask me if you're "to understand" that you "no longer" need to carry your green card.
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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Nothing was struck down. You really should quit while you're only slightly behind.
    Actually, the ability of racist Arizona cops to do THIS was struck down. A trucker was stopped in Arizona, and had his driver's license in order. However, he was not carrying his birth certificate with him, so he was thrown in jail. Who the hell carries their birth certificates with them at all times?

    That trucker is an AMERICAN CITIZEN, who was born in Fresno, California. What Arizonans want to do smacks of South African apartheid. I know I am not supposed to judge people by where they are from, but I can't help feeling that the majority of Arizonans who support that law, and most of them do, would have made outstanding German citizens in the 1930's. Anyways, his rights were clearly violated. When a state law enables violations like this to happen, then it is not only the right of the Federal government to step in, but the duty of the Feds to step in.
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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Actually, the ability of racist Arizona cops to do THIS was struck down. A trucker was stopped in Arizona, and had his driver's license in order. However, he was not carrying his birth certificate with him, so he was thrown in jail. Who the hell carries their birth certificates with them at all times?

    That trucker is an AMERICAN CITIZEN, who was born in Fresno, California. What Arizonans want to do smacks of South African apartheid. I know I am not supposed to judge people by where they are from, but I can't help feeling that the majority of Arizonans who support that law, and most of them do, would have made outstanding German citizens in the 1930's.
    Uh, no, it was NOT struck down. Enforcement of some of the provisions of the law was enjoined temporarily.

    Which doesn't even matter in this instance, because the law in question in no way authorized what happened in that case.
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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm not a lawyer, and neither are you. You believe she is ignoring, but you may well be wrong. What site did you grab these from?
    You don't have to be a lawyer to read case law.
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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    None of those cases is a 9th Circuit case, and the sole Supreme Court case there isn't on point (though it does say that asking about immigration status doesn't violate the 4th Amendment). So, she wasn't ignoring anything she was bound to follow.
    what are you talking about?

    And where does it say judges can only cite court cases from their circuit court? Oh thats right, Nowhere!

    A state trooper has general investigatory authority to inquire into possible immigration violations. Moreover, the trooper's question about the green card was reasonable under the circumstances, and thus lawful."

    "In particular, the United States observes this court has long held that state and local law enforcement officers are empowered to arrest for violations of federal law, as long as such arrest is authorized by state law

    "We noted just recently that state law enforcement officers within the Tenth Circuit "have the general authority to investigate and make arrests for violations of federal immigration laws,".


    What part of that don't you understand?
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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    And thats where she ignored legal precident citing the exact opposite.
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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Its pathetic and clearly political in nature on her end. She is throwing out federal law at the same time. So much for interpreting the law.
    Please explain how this throws out federal law?
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    Re: Judge blocks part of controversial Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dane View Post
    Your in no place to state whether or not a judge knows what she's talking about.
    And are you in a place to state that the judge does know? This ruling was wrong, and it was a judge legislating politics from the bech. I hope this goes to the Supreme Court, where it will be upheld as lawful.
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