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    Re: WikiLeaks Data Seem to Show Pakistan Helped Attack American Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Well the difference is that the US gave the Afghans those rockets... who are they getting them from now... that is a very good question.
    As details are lacking, my speculation is:

    1) Some are old
    2) Others are being smuggled in possibly via Iran and Pakistan if U.S. Intelligence concerning weapons smuggling from both countries is accurate
    3) From re-engineering the Stinger missiles, there might also exist a modest local capability for building such rockets; often the capabilities of enemies has been underestimated; I see no compelling evidence why such localized manufacture would not be possible, though it might be relatively small in scale

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    Re: WikiLeaks Data Seem to Show Pakistan Helped Attack American Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the "putz" is the same kind of patriot who exposed the pentagon papers during the vietnam war
    someone who recognizes that embarrassing information - such as the numerous unreported instances of collateral damage, some of it potentially intentional - deserves to be disclosed and dealt with rather than hidden via top security label
    someone who believes the country is by, for and of the people ... who need to know the misguided actions of its leadership

    the party on this thread who is wrong is one who believes a swede is committing treason against the USA by publishing this information via wikileaks
    even tho that forumite posted the definition of treason, they were unable to recognize that a swede has no allegiance to the USA, and thus cannot be sanctioned for treasonous activities

    Hmmmm....I see. And if and when this information released is tied back to the death of some American troops, will he still be a patriot?


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    Re: WikiLeaks Data Seem to Show Pakistan Helped Attack American Troops

    Something tells me this enrages people because the leaked info doesn't suit their political agenda.
    Also, the govt stated the info was ultimately irrelevant. (NPR)

    Hmmmm....I see. And if and when this information released is tied back to the death of some American troops, will he still be a patriot?
    And if the information creates enough political impetus to stop wasting our resources on an un-winnable war?

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    Re: WikiLeaks Data Seem to Show Pakistan Helped Attack American Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    No, releasing classified data isn't dangerous at all to national security...

    No...

    (that's sarcasm for those of you in Rio Linda)

    And to Answer PeteEU...
    IT'S NOT THE RIGHT OR PLACE OF THE ****BAG THAT OWNS Wikileaks TO RELEASE INFORMATION. Those that provided the data, should be tried for Treason, and then shot.
    That's just really stupid and silly.
    Be reasonable now.
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    Re: WikiLeaks Data Seem to Show Pakistan Helped Attack American Troops

    Here's Q&A for the leak:

    Q&A: What do WikiLeak documents tell us? - CNN.com

    (CNN) -- CNN senior international correspondent Nic Robertson analyzes the fallout from the publication of tens of thousands of U.S. military and diplomatic reports about Afghanistan by whistleblower website WikiLeaks.

    Q: What do these documents tell us about the war in Afghanistan?

    A: It's more detail than we've ever seen before about the war. The newspapers -- the New York Times, the Guardian in the UK and others -- have had access to the documents for several weeks and have had the chance to do the most digging.
    Just to clarify, the info is secret not top secret. Also, there are lots of documents so we might have to wait to see what else shows up.
    Last edited by Redress; 07-26-10 at 05:48 PM. Reason: Fair Use

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    Re: WikiLeaks Data Seem to Show Pakistan Helped Attack American Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Something tells me this enrages people because the leaked info doesn't suit their political agenda.
    Also, the govt stated the info was ultimately irrelevant. (NPR)
    And something tells me that you are cherry picking interviews to match your own opinion on the subject. The Pentagon says that they can't begin to asses the damage until they go over all the information released.

    And if the information creates enough political impetus to stop wasting our resources on an un-winnable war?
    Why is it so important to liberals for America to lose a war?


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    Re: WikiLeaks Data Seem to Show Pakistan Helped Attack American Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hmmmm....I see. And if and when this information released is tied back to the death of some American troops, will he still be a patriot?


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    to you it is found unpatriotic to disclose the truth

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    Re: WikiLeaks Data Seem to Show Pakistan Helped Attack American Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    to you it is found unpatriotic to disclose the truth

    no surprise



    I think it's more stealing classified information that could jeapordize the young men and women in harms way that is not "patriotic".....
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    Re: WikiLeaks Data Seem to Show Pakistan Helped Attack American Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    to you it is found unpatriotic to disclose the truth

    no surprise

    Not at all. Way to smear. It was you that called this Swede a patriot to begin with. Now, I don't think that it is right that some liberal goof from another country releases information that is classified without a care in the world as to what that means to the men and women on the battle field.

    You, apparently think it is all good....We disagree, I am shocked.

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    Re: WikiLeaks Data Seem to Show Pakistan Helped Attack American Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    to you it is found unpatriotic to disclose the truth

    no surprise
    Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The public's right to know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a bunch a' nonsense. Good thing some of you weren't around for D-Day. It is unpatriotic to sabotage your country's own effectivenes in a war. It's immaterial here, though, because it's my understanding the owner of the website is not an American.

    Actually, the much more important question is, "If these were still classified Secret, how were they obtained?"
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