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    Overweight people should pay 'fat tax' to cover healthcare costs, German MP says

    I guess this is one of the consequences of a socialized medicine system.

    Overweight people should pay 'fat tax' to cover healthcare costs, German MP says - Telegraph

    "The question must be admitted whether the immense costs that, for example, arise from excessive consumption of food, can be permanently paid out of the consolidated health system," said Marco Wanderwitz, the conservative MP for the state of Saxony.

    "I think it's sensible that people who knowingly live unhealthily carry a responsibility for it in a financial respect," said Mr Wanderwitz, who is also head of Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democrats's group of young parliamentarians

    He was supported by Juergen Wasem, an economist who said foods like chocolate should carry health warnings.

    "As with tobacco, we should tax the purchase of unhealthy consumer goods at a higher rate and pay that tax into the health system," he said.

    Germany's health system is funded by a series of mandatory health insurance funds, all of which are reporting serious deficits as the system is overused.
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    Re: Overweight people should pay 'fat tax' to cover healthcare costs, German MP says

    You would guess wrongly.

    "The system is decentralized with private practice physicians providing ambulatory care, and independent, mostly non-profit hospitals providing the majority of inpatient care. Approximately 92% of the population is covered by a 'Statutory Health Insurance' plan, which provides a standardized level of coverage through any one of approximately 1100 public or private sickness funds. Standard insurance is funded by a combination of employee contributions, employer contributions and government subsidies on a scale determined by income level"

    Universal health care - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Overweight people should pay 'fat tax' to cover healthcare costs, German MP says

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I guess this is one of the consequences of a socialized medicine system.

    Overweight people should pay 'fat tax' to cover healthcare costs, German MP says - Telegraph

    "The question must be admitted whether the immense costs that, for example, arise from excessive consumption of food, can be permanently paid out of the consolidated health system," said Marco Wanderwitz, the conservative MP for the state of Saxony.

    "I think it's sensible that people who knowingly live unhealthily carry a responsibility for it in a financial respect," said Mr Wanderwitz, who is also head of Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democrats's group of young parliamentarians

    He was supported by Juergen Wasem, an economist who said foods like chocolate should carry health warnings.

    "As with tobacco, we should tax the purchase of unhealthy consumer goods at a higher rate and pay that tax into the health system," he said.

    Germany's health system is funded by a series of mandatory health insurance funds, all of which are reporting serious deficits as the system is overused.
    Although opposition politicians blasted the "fat-tax" proposal, researchers at the Jacobs University in Bremen claimed its work proved that the majority of the public would back a tax on people whose unhealthy lifestyles landed them in hospital or under other medical care.
    This is the last part of your article you just accidently left out.

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    Re: Overweight people should pay 'fat tax' to cover healthcare costs, German MP says

    Here's an idea:

    If each individual in Germany was resposible for his own health care, the German government wouldn't be forced to compromise people's freedom by taxing fat.

    Of course, government's LOVE any excuse to create new taxes.

    Which is why the United States should repeal Messiah-Care as soon as possible.

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    Re: Overweight people should pay 'fat tax' to cover healthcare costs, German MP says

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Here's an idea:

    If each individual in Germany was resposible for his own health care, the German government wouldn't be forced to compromise people's freedom by taxing fat.

    Of course, government's LOVE any excuse to create new taxes.



    Which is why the United States should repeal Messiah-Care as soon as possible.
    I agree. It worries me that all of a sudden we are talking about BMI being required in our medical records and school records. The first ladies crusade to fight childhood obesity. Talk of taxing junk food etc.
    I saw a factory on tv that was in Japan. A person was walking around measuring peoples waists. (they all looked skinny) They said if the people were too fat they would get a warning and if they didn't lose, they would have to go to nutritional counciling.
    Are we headed there?

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    Re: Overweight people should pay 'fat tax' to cover healthcare costs, German MP says

    Should people with terrible negligent driving records pay more for car insurance?

    Should people who have neglected their bodies pay more for health insurance?

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    Re: Overweight people should pay 'fat tax' to cover healthcare costs, German MP says

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Should people with terrible negligent driving records pay more for car insurance?

    Should people who have neglected their bodies pay more for health insurance?
    The funny thing is that it's the healthy people that end up using more health care money than fat people. Link Using that logic then healthy people should be paying more.

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    Re: Overweight people should pay 'fat tax' to cover healthcare costs, German MP says

    Fat people put a burden on the health care industry. Germans are smart, that's why most of them support the law, and why their government is willing to put it in to practice. Americans are fat and usually stupid.

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    Re: Overweight people should pay 'fat tax' to cover healthcare costs, German MP says

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dane View Post
    Fat people put a burden on the health care industry. Germans are smart, that's why most of them support the law, and why their government is willing to put it in to practice. Americans are fat and usually stupid.
    Proof that fat people put a burden on the health care industry?

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    Re: Overweight people should pay 'fat tax' to cover healthcare costs, German MP says

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    The funny thing is that it's the healthy people that end up using more health care money than fat people. Link Using that logic then healthy people should be paying more.
    Thing is, we wouldn't be having this discussion if the government wasn't taking over every aspect of our lives.
    Already meddling into our weight and diet because they will be paying for it.
    Soon, they will be telling our kids and grandkids what they are going to be when they grow up. (doctors,nurses, probably) They'll be paying for the education so they will have every right to. I think that was the main purpose for taking over student loans.

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