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    Re: White House predicts record $1.47 trillion deficit

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Without addressing your absurd generalizations, the fact is that what I said matches the way the general public views and responds to the Presidency.
    Well, I'm sure you've read The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and understand that, in many respects, the President's purpose is to take attention away from the true masters of the country, the bankers.

    And you've always provided an argument for limiting the franchise to a less general population.

    At a minimum, only people who can read should be able to vote, and of that group, only people who work and pay taxes.

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    Re: White House predicts record $1.47 trillion deficit

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Well, I'm sure you've read The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and understand that, in many respects, the President's purpose is to take attention away from the true masters of the country, the bankers.
    Like I said, he's the national strawman.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    And you've always provided an argument for limiting the franchise to a less general population.
    Wait, wiat, I have?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    At a minimum, only people who can read should be able to vote
    Given the number of illiterate students graduating high school these days, I think the solution is better education, not disenfranchisement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    and of that group, only people who work and pay taxes.
    That's absurd.

    Even those who don't pay taxes spend what money they have in ways that are taxed.

    Also, how the hell do you know who is and is not working? We've already seen that the federal government is utterly incapable of figuring out just how many of us don't have jobs.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: White House predicts record $1.47 trillion deficit

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Wait, wiat, I have?
    Just guessin'

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Given the number of illiterate students graduating high school these days, I think the solution is better education, not disenfranchisement.
    I think the disenfranchisement of people too lazyto learn how to read will give an additional incentive to students to learn.

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    That's absurd.

    Even those who don't pay taxes spend what money they have in ways that are taxed.
    So? They're not producing, they're tapeworms. Tapeworms shouldn't be allowed to tell the body what it should eat.

    That's just common sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Also, how the hell do you know who is and is not working? We've already seen that the federal government is utterly incapable of figuring out just how many of us don't have jobs.
    I don't know.

    But the IRS does.

    Fancy that.

    Most precisely, the IRS knows who reports income that's taxed, and we can forget about the semantics of the word "working".

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    Re: White House predicts record $1.47 trillion deficit

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Just guessin'
    Just lyin', more like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    I think the disenfranchisement of people too lazyto learn how to read will give an additional incentive to students to learn.
    What about people with learning disorders? How about the blind or legally blind? How about those in areas so poor that literacy takes a back seat to survival?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    So? They're not producing, they're tapeworms. Tapeworms shouldn't be allowed to tell the body what it should eat.
    You can produce without paying taxes and without breaking the law, so don't give me that tapeworm bull****.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    I don't know.

    But the IRS does.

    Fancy that.
    No, it's more like the IRS wishes this were true.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Most precisely, the IRS knows who reports income that's taxed, and we can forget about the semantics of the word "working".
    This whole line of thought is moot, anyway.

    Restricting voting rights based on whether or not you pay taxes is explicitly unConstitutional, anyhow.


    TED,
    Directing your attention to the 14th and 24th Amendments, and to Harper v. Virginia Board of Elections.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: White House predicts record $1.47 trillion deficit

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Well you have to decide what programs are necessary, and which ones are not, and how much money do you take away from said programs.
    Ok. And? That's easy enough.


    We need to get out of this recession before we can tackle the deficit. Cutting government spending won't get us out of the recession, increasing government spending will
    You didn't answer the question.
    Where is the (short term) benefit from the several trillion dollars The Obama has added to the debt?

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    Re: White House predicts record $1.47 trillion deficit

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dane View Post
    The last President to balance the budget was Clinton.
    If that's actually true -- and depending on how you look at the numbers, it isn't -- this only happened because the GOP-controlled forced him to do so.
    The Clintonian budgets passed by a Dem-controlled congress forecats deficits for as far as they eye could see.

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    Re: White House predicts record $1.47 trillion deficit

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Nope. Only if you allow criminal accounting scams to hide expenses.

    Clinton never had a balanced budget in front of him.

    Also, it's the Congess that sets the budget, not the President, who merely signs the bill Congress writes.

    So in that case Obama is not responsible for the current deficit, congress is.
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    Re: White House predicts record $1.47 trillion deficit

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    So in that case Obama is not responsible for the current deficit, congress is.
    Yep, for the most part. However, the President can veto the budget bill. Congress then can try to override the veto. So both in the end are to blame with IMO, Congress having the larger share.
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    Re: White House predicts record $1.47 trillion deficit

    God forbid that the president actually uses the power of veto. It's not just Obama that has failed in his fidiciary responsibility to exercise veto over unconstitutional laws, but presidents going all the way back to Andrew Jackson.

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    Re: White House predicts record $1.47 trillion deficit

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Nope. Only if you allow criminal accounting scams to hide expenses.

    Clinton never had a balanced budget in front of him.

    Also, it's the Congess that sets the budget, not the President, who merely signs the bill Congress writes.
    Haha yeah criminal? Every single President has used the same accounting practices.

    Other readers have noted a USA Today story stating that, under an alternative type of accounting, the final four years of the Clinton administration taken together would have shown a deficit. This is based on an annual document called the "Financial Report of the U.S. Government," which reports what the governments books would look like if kept on an accrual basis like those of most corporations, rather than the cash basis that the government has always used. The principal difference is that under accrual accounting the government would book immediately the costs of promises made to pay future benefits to government workers and Social Security and Medicare beneficiaries. But even under accrual accounting, the annual reports showed surpluses of $69.2 billion in fiscal 1998, $76.9 billion in fiscal 1999, and $46 billion for fiscal year 2000. So even if the government had been using that form of accounting the deficit would have been erased for those three years.
    Stop LYING.
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