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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Doesn't support your statement that he spent more time being an activist than a soldier now does it?

    Care to retract that statement or would you like to try again?
    Obviously, Army Regulations meant nothing to Dan Choi. Any officer who ignores the regulations in such a manner isn't fit for duty and shouldn't be serving in the military.

    If you can't depend on an officer to follow a regulation as simple as not wearing his uniform to a political function; then how can you depend on him to obey the rules of war on the battlefield?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Dan Choi obviously violated Army Regulations. He is a discredit to his unit, his service and sets a piss poor example for his men.

    Any leader that doesn't live by the same standards that he expects from his men, is a piece of **** and doesn't deserve to wear the uniform.
    I have to wonder if you would be this foul, acidic, and bilious in your posting if it were a straight officer protesting gay marriage or supporting DADT at a rally...

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I have to wonder if you would be this foul, acidic, and bilious in your posting if it were a straight officer protesting gay marriage or supporting DADT at a rally...
    You're goddamned right I would. The regulations apply to everyone, no matter what their politics are.

    Anyone, regardless of rank, who doesn't live by and enforce the regulations and the standards of the service, no matter the reason, is a piece of **** and doesn't deserve to wear the uniform.

    How does that go about answering your question?
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're goddamned right I would. The regulations apply to everyone, no matter what their politics are.

    Anyone, regardless of rank, who doesn't live by and enforce the regulations and the standards of the service, no matter the reason, is a piece of **** and doesn't deserve to wear the uniform.

    How does that go about answering your question?
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I'm not sure that I buy it...but if its true....good for you!
    When it comes to Army Regulations, I'm unflexible, just I was unflexible when I was on active duty. Are you one of those Libbos that is always harping about the rules of war and the Geneva Convention and crying about how our soldiers are violating those rules and they should go to prison for it? Well, how can you call for the rigid enforcement of those rules, yet ignore Dan Choi's violations of regulations that are far more simpler to comply with?

    If you can't depend on a soldier to do things as simple as cut their hair, maintain military bearing and wear their uniform in accordance with Army Regulations; how can you depend on that soldier to perform the proper tasks on the battlefield; where people's lives are at stake. Conventional wisdom would tell you that you couldn't. Right?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're goddamned right I would. The regulations apply to everyone, no matter what their politics are.

    Anyone, regardless of rank, who doesn't live by and enforce the regulations and the standards of the service, no matter the reason, is a piece of **** and doesn't deserve to wear the uniform.

    How does that go about answering your question?
    It makes an effort to answer it. However, I would be lying if I said I believed your rant would be as strong were it something other than this.

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    It makes an effort to answer it. However, I would be lying if I said I believed your rant would be as strong were it something other than this.
    I don't give a **** if you believe me, or not. I guess only time will tell.
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't give a **** if you believe me, or not. I guess only time will tell.
    I didn't really care if you did, sport. I simply find your mouthfoaming rant a bit too impassioned over this issue to be about the regulation and not the circumstance. If it walks like a duck and all that.

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I didn't really care if you did, sport. I simply find your mouthfoaming rant a bit too impassioned over this issue to be about the regulation and not the circumstance. If it walks like a duck and all that.
    I guess the same could be said for you, if this issue didn't hit so close to home. Eh? The next time a birfer refuses to deploy, you gonna give him a break?
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I guess the same could be said for you, if this issue didn't hit so close to home. Eh? The next time a birfer refuses to deploy, you gonna give him a break?
    I am not the one breaking down into rants and noxious cussing over the issue. And no, I am not going to cut the birfer a break. I also don't think you can show me one post where I insisted that Choi be offered a break either so the point you thought you were making...well, you didn't.

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