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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    It is equal. They don't ask heteros for orientation either.

    You just probably don't hear about heterosexuals being in trouble for acting like bravado-stricken alpha males because that's dog-bites-man. News has to shock you or it's not news.

    I support leaving sexuality out of military affairs, no matter which gender you like. That's pretty neutral to me. Once you get a furlough or shore leave, chase all the ass you want. On the clock, you do your job and you leave your pecker's desires at home.
    Got any evidence of heterosexual people being discharged just for their sexuality?

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    It is equal. They don't ask heteros for orientation either.

    You just probably don't hear about heterosexuals being in trouble for acting like bravado-stricken alpha males because that's dog-bites-man. News has to shock you or it's not news.

    I support leaving sexuality out of military affairs, no matter which gender you like. That's pretty neutral to me. Once you get a furlough or shore leave, chase all the ass you want. On the clock, you do your job and you leave your pecker's desires at home.
    You can't be discharged for telling a superior officer that you are straight, so there's a difference there. But I agree that sexuality, straight, gay, or other, should not at all interest the US military.
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    He broke the rules. What is so hard to understand about that?

    So if a solider was really great at his job but refused to wear a uniform he should be allowed to stay as well?
    the rule is flawed and discriminates, what is so hard to understand about that?

    If your Gay you must hide it because if we find out your fired, that sounds so equal and fair!
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Nope, but I'd support it. If some dude on the clock was bragging to the world about how he was tapping stripper ass when he was on leave, to the detriment of the work environment, I'd recommend some sort of punishment.

    It doesn't fly in the real world or the corporate. I can speak anecodtally on that one.

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    the rule is flawed and discriminates, what is so hard to understand about that?
    Because that is your personal opinion on the law. Hardly justification for changing it.

    If your Gay you must hide it because if we find out your fired, that sounds so equal and fair!
    Again your personal opinion of gays isn't justification for breaking the rule.
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    It is equal. They don't ask heteros for orientation either.

    You just probably don't hear about heterosexuals being in trouble for acting like bravado-stricken alpha males because that's dog-bites-man. News has to shock you or it's not news.

    I support leaving sexuality out of military affairs, no matter which gender you like. That's pretty neutral to me. Once you get a furlough or shore leave, chase all the ass you want. On the clock, you do your job and you leave your pecker's desires at home.
    So you would support discharging any military member, straight or gay, if they talk about a girlfriend, make comments about how they are attracted to women, etc.
    Afterall...that would be a violation of DADT under your suggestion.
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Telling a buddy in private that you're gay would, I highly doubt, cause a discharge. Now if you showed up on base wearing a fishnet shirt, assless chaps and yelling with a lisp, then sure.

    People get fired from the private sector for a whole lot less. What makes the military so damned special?

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Telling a buddy in private that you're gay would, I highly doubt, cause a discharge. Now if you showed up on base wearing a fishnet shirt, assless chaps and yelling with a lisp, then sure.

    People get fired from the private sector for a whole lot less. What makes the military so damned special?
    There have actually been many documented cases where people have been discharged for as little as that.

    Going back, however, I'm curious if you would support discharge of hetero soldiers under your suggestion, who mention a girlfriend back home or make general non-explicit sexual comments about their attraction towards women...both of which would cause gay soldiers to be discharged under DADT.
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Because that is your personal opinion on the law. Hardly justification for changing it.



    Again your personal opinion of gays isn't justification for breaking the rule.
    This rule discriminates and that is not opinion, I thought discrimination was BAD. Just because some people actually think Gays don't deserve the same rights and oppurtunities because some 2,000 year old book has a verse here and there doesn't mean they don't deserve to be treated equally.

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Telling a buddy in private that you're gay would, I highly doubt, cause a discharge. Now if you showed up on base wearing a fishnet shirt, assless chaps and yelling with a lisp, then sure.

    People get fired from the private sector for a whole lot less. What makes the military so damned special?
    There was a story in the news a couple months ago, Lady in the Air Force was lesbian. She kept it hidden but one day the police came into in her house to investigate a burgalry or something and found her marriage license showing she was married to another woman. The police handed this over to her commander and she was discharged.

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