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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Your revisonist history brings disgrace upon Conservatives. Change your politicale leaning to, "very Liberal". Please?
    I notice that you didn't present proof to dispute my statement, instead you attack me. How quaint.

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    I notice that you didn't present proof to dispute my statement, instead you attack me. How quaint.
    Present proof?

    Ok...let's see... two words..."Lawrence, Kansas".

    HELLO?!?!?!?
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Wait, so a group of states that succeeded from the Union, and fought to keep the institution of slavery alive is honorable? You've got to be kidding me.

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Present proof?

    Ok...let's see... two words..."Lawrence, Kansas".

    HELLO?!?!?!?
    That is what they call The Payback in retaliation for the intentional collapse of a hotel in Kansas City, MO by the US Army. Inside of the hotel, were the immediate family members to certain notable officers in the Missouri Partisan Rangers like Bill Anderson. The raid on Lawrence, Kansas was to attack the US Army fort there and to arrest Unionist men for war crimes. Quantrill's Raiders attacked the fort only and left the civilian population alone. They specifically targeted prominent leaders like Senator James Lane. All told, during the fighting, 150 men had died on the Unionist side. Not a single woman or child was injured in the fighting. (Source) After The Payback, General Thomas Ewing (US Army) ordered the evacuation of four western Missouri counties, ass, Jackson, Bates and portions of Vernon, and burned them to the ground. (Source)

    You were saying?

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

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    Wait, so a group of states that succeeded from the Union, and fought to keep the institution of slavery alive is honorable? You've got to be kidding me.
    LOL Do you get your history from the back of a crackerjack box?

    Slavery wasn't even one of the primary reasons for the civil war.

    For God's sake do some research.
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    LOL Do you get your history from the back of a crackerjack box?

    Slavery wasn't even one of the primary reasons for the civil war.

    For God's sake do some research.
    So the confederacy was getting rid of slavery? Please, stop trying to push your apologist history.

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Wait, so a group of states that succeeded from the Union, and fought to keep the institution of slavery alive is honorable? You've got to be kidding me.
    No offense, but many of those fighting in the Confederacy did not own slaves, and didn't even believe that they ever would. In fact, Virginia was intitially neutral towards the war, until the Union tried to draft Virginians to fight for their side and to insist on using Virginia to get to the other states. Many who fought for the Confederacy, actually fought more for state's soveignty than to maintain slavery.

    I don't agree with seceding, but I also don't like how people miscontrue history. I know that we were all taught that the Civil War was about slavery, but that just isn't completely true. My husband is a huge Civil War buff, I have learned a lot since I've been with him. I am really glad the Union won, but that doesn't mean that I think all Confederate soldiers were wrong and/or scum or even that they were all racist.
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No offense, but many of those fighting in the Confederacy did not own slaves, and didn't even believe that they ever would. In fact, Virginia was intitially neutral towards the war, until the Union tried to draft Virginians to fight for their side and to insist on using Virginia to get to the other states. Many who fought for the Confederacy, actually fought more for state's soveignty than to maintain slavery.

    I don't agree with seceding, but I also don't like how people miscontrue history. I know that we were all taught that the Civil War was about slavery, but that just isn't completely true. My husband is a huge Civil War buff, I have learned a lot since I've been with him. I am really glad the Union won, but that doesn't mean that I think all Confederate soldiers were wrong and/or scum or even that they were all racist.
    I'm not saying that they were all slave owners, I know very few people in the south actually owned slaves. But I wouldn't call them honorable, misguided fools would be the best term to describe most of the soldiers in the confederacy.

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I'm not saying that they were all slave owners, I know very few people in the south actually owned slaves. But I wouldn't call them honorable, misguided fools would be the best term to describe most of the soldiers in the confederacy.
    So was my family misguided fools after reading what the US Army did to them?

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I'm not saying that they were all slave owners, I know very few people in the south actually owned slaves. But I wouldn't call them honorable, misguided fools would be the best term to describe most of the soldiers in the confederacy.
    They were fighting for what they believed was a good cause. Many could have cared less whether slavery was legal or not, but they didn't like the idea of a strong central government. I don't think they were any more or less honorable than those soldiers fighting for the Union. They were just fighting to maintain their ideals. I personally disagree with their beliefs, for the most part (although there were some unfair taxes imposed on the South prior to the Civil War that I don't agree with), I still don't believe they were fools.
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