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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude
    So by being honest, he gets discharged. If he lies, he can stay in the military. Wow....that's American values run amuk.
    Yeah, tell the truth all the time and see how long you hold ANY job.

    There's valuable life advice and lessons in minding your own damn business. This story is your tax dollars at work.

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    still avoiding the question I see. Why am I not surprized?
    I'm not avoiding anything. The rules do not require your personal moral questions.

    Until you understand your personal moral stance is not the center of the universe there is nothing more to say. You can't justify breaking a rule based on your personal moral objection.
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I challenge anyone who is against repealing the DADT policy to watch the video in the attached link and make an argument why it strengthen the military to discharge this West Point graduate.
    It didn't exactly "strengthen the military" to force this West Point graduate out, either. But when you break rules...

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    It didn't exactly "strengthen the military" to force this West Point graduate out, either. But when you break rules...

    Perfect example Taylor
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    it doesn't strengthen the military whatsoever, He was very qualified and good at his job. He happened to have been gay so since in the military's eyes they are inferior he was discharged.

    What happened to every man is created equal???

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    it doesn't strengthen the military whatsoever, He was very qualified and good at his job. He happened to have been gay so since in the military's eyes they are inferior he was discharged.

    What happened to every man is created equal???
    He broke the rules. What is so hard to understand about that?

    So if a solider was really great at his job but refused to wear a uniform he should be allowed to stay as well?
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    He did break the rules and should be discharged. The military functions on discipline. Obey orders. Period.

    However, his case does serve as evidence that DADT is a flawed policy. He was out for 17 months and there were no negative effects. His being openly gay didn't ruin unit morale or cohesion. "It's the rules" does not justify the rule itself continuing to exist.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    He did break the rules and should be discharged. The military functions on discipline. Obey orders. Period.

    However, his case does serve as evidence that DADT is a flawed policy. He was out for 17 months and there were no negative effects. His being openly gay didn't ruin unit morale or cohesion. "It's the rules" does not justify the rule itself continuing to exist.
    Well said, Deuce.

    This law needs to change. It's amazing to me how a country that highly values it's freedom still cannot treat all it's citizens with equal rights.
    “No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it,” Trump said... “‘Is everyone OK’? You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Well said, Deuce.

    This law needs to change. It's amazing to me how a country that highly values it's freedom still cannot treat all it's citizens with equal rights.
    *grabs popcorn*
    We both know where this is going!
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    It is equal. They don't ask heteros for orientation either.

    You just probably don't hear about heterosexuals being in trouble for acting like bravado-stricken alpha males because that's dog-bites-man. News has to shock you or it's not news.

    I support leaving sexuality out of military affairs, no matter which gender you like. That's pretty neutral to me. Once you get a furlough or shore leave, chase all the ass you want. On the clock, you do your job and you leave your pecker's desires at home.

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