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Folks, cease the personal attacks and remember this thread is about DADT, not the Civil War.
 
Third, the whole commander asking thing is stupid. Right now, under DADT, a commander cannot ask, ever, if a soldier is gay. During a DADT investigation, a soldier can be asked if they said they where gay, engaged in gay activities, are married to some one of the same sex, but they cannot be asked "are you gay". This is related to another mistaken comment in this thread...being gay is not against the rules in the military now. You cannot be discharged for being gay, you can be discharged for doing something to admit you are gay, such as telling, engaging in homosexual acts, or getting married to some one of the same sex. It is not allowed for commanders to ask some one's orientation, and the soldier, while they cannot use such blunt language, can in essence tell that officer to go to hell, it's none of their business.

That's a very subtle distinction that I didn't know about. Thanks.
 
We should let gays serve in the militray. But we have to make sure we segregate them like we did with the blacks during ww2. That woulden't demoralize our current straight troops, and it would benefit to our military in terms of populace and production.
 
We should let gays serve in the militray. But we have to make sure we segregate them like we did with the blacks during ww2. That woulden't demoralize our current straight troops, and it would benefit to our military in terms of populace and production.

How do you think a segregation would work? After repealing DADT and the sodomy rules, it wouldn't be required that people revealed their sexuality, it would just be an option. In fact, it would probably be heavily encouraged that everyone avoid talking about their sex lives on duty as much as possible, no matter what their sexuality actually is.

And what benefit could it have to morale? This would discourage actual teamwork and unity. And, not all straight troops care if they serve with a homosexual. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that most could care less. Even some now, who are adamant about maintaining DADT, are more afraid of change. They don't really know what will happen, they are just afraid that it might be bad because it isn't what they are used to. Most likely, once they see that their life didn't change that much, they will get over it and move on.
 
We should let gays serve in the militray. But we have to make sure we segregate them like we did with the blacks during ww2. That woulden't demoralize our current straight troops, and it would benefit to our military in terms of populace and production.

What about bisexuals?
 
How do you think a segregation would work? After repealing DADT and the sodomy rules, it wouldn't be required that people revealed their sexuality, it would just be an option. In fact, it would probably be heavily encouraged that everyone avoid talking about their sex lives on duty as much as possible, no matter what their sexuality actually is.

And what benefit could it have to morale? This would discourage actual teamwork and unity. And, not all straight troops care if they serve with a homosexual. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that most could care less. Even some now, who are adamant about maintaining DADT, are more afraid of change. They don't really know what will happen, they are just afraid that it might be bad because it isn't what they are used to. Most likely, once they see that their life didn't change that much, they will get over it and move on.

I was being absolutely sardonic. But it could work in the sense of public outrage. Make something wrong even worse. Then maybe it will actually get more media attention.
Yes for some reason people make the argument that gays in the military affect morale and productivity. What i stated above is probably the last thing we would want to do :).
 
I was being absolutely sardonic. But it could work in the sense of public outrage. Make something wrong even worse. Then maybe it will actually get more media attention.
Yes for some reason people make the argument that gays in the military affect morale and productivity. What i stated above is probably the last thing we would want to do :).

Sorry. I'm really bad at spotting sarcasm in posts.

Obviously I agree. I have argued with people who would love to do just what you suggested though.
 
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