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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

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    And yet you ignore my scenario in which a gay soldier would be treated unjustly under DADT. Typical.
    And, you ingore a scenario where a straight soldier is discriminated against, without DADT. Typical?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, since I'm streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetching it, how do you propose we discourage discrimination against a service member's sexual orientation? Are we to assume that it won't happen, simply because DADT has been repealed and that gays are incapable of discriminating against straights?

    I can't wait for the Libbos to answer this question that I've posted a half-dozen times, with no answer, other than, "oooh, it's sexual harassment".

    What's gonna happen when a gay company commander (an officer) and a gay platoon leader (an officer) go after a straight platoon sargeant (non-commissioned officer), because the platoon sargeant is at odds with the platoon leader? Let's don't act as if discrimination can't happen, because I've seen first hand how black officers will gang up on a white NCO.

    Any solution to that, other than, "gee! that won't happen, because gays are smarter and cooler than straights and **** like that"?
    Ah.....it will be handled the same way any other discrimation claim is handled......duh!
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A male asking another male about his sexual orientation isn't sexual harassment.
    Yes, it is. Check with an EO rep, anything sexual in nature, whether it be by a male to male, male to female, female to male, or female to female is sexual harrassment to ask ANYTHING about sexually unwarranted.

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

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    Ah.....it will be handled the same way any other discrimation claim is handled......duh!
    How is that, exactly? Oh, please, tell us in all your military experience, how discrimination cases are handled in the service.

    Can't wait for this!
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

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    Yes, it is. Check with an EO rep, anything sexual in nature, whether it be by a male to male, male to female, female to male, or female to female is sexual harrassment to ask ANYTHING about sexually unwarranted.


    Anything between opposite sex's. There's nothing that says anything between males and males, or females and females.

    Unless, you can post actual documentation, of course. can you?
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How is that, exactly? Oh, please, tell us in all your military experience, how discrimination cases are handled in the service.

    Can't wait for this!
    The same way they are handled anywhere else. How are they handled now? When you answer that question, you will have the answer to the silly question that you posted.
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Since you're always advocating that you're smarter than I am, you understand that that is what I said. yes?

    Am I unable to convey a point, or are some folks unable to comprehend that point? I havne't been to college; most of you ****ers claim the opposite. So, which is it?
    I'm just making sure. No need to get all bent out of shape. Good for you for being consistent.
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The same way they are handled anywhere else. How are they handled now? When you answer that question, you will have the answer to the silly question that you posted.
    Care to show us how they are handled, "elsewhere"?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, since I'm streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetching it, how do you propose we discourage discrimination against a service member's sexual orientation? Are we to assume that it won't happen, simply because DADT has been repealed and that gays are incapable of discriminating against straights?

    I can't wait for the Libbos to answer this question that I've posted a half-dozen times, with no answer, other than, "oooh, it's sexual harassment".

    What's gonna happen when a gay company commander (an officer) and a gay platoon leader (an officer) go after a straight platoon sargeant (non-commissioned officer), because the platoon sargeant is at odds with the platoon leader? Let's don't act as if discrimination can't happen, because I've seen first hand how black officers will gang up on a white NCO.

    Any solution to that, other than, "gee! that won't happen, because gays are smarter and cooler than straights and **** like that"?
    If a soldier is being unfair, or discriminatory to another soldier it will be handled, and dealt with just like any other situation like it. Is it really that hard to understand? LGBT soldiers don't want to be treated any different than any other soldier, they just want to be treated the same, and under DADT they aren't.

    And you've still yet to answer my question about if you think that scenario I posted a few posts ago is okay. What are you scared to answer?

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I'm just making sure. No need to get all bent out of shape. Good for you for being consistent.
    In the service, the rules are the rules. I've explained this to you in another thread. The rules aren't flexible. When they become flexible, people die.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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