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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No they will not because that falls under Sexual Harrasment which IS ALREADY COVERED. Do you not get that? That would be like a supervisor asking a subordinent if they like the missionary position or doggy style. They would be brought up on sexual harrasment just as they would if they would ask about their SEXUAL orientation.
    A male asking another male about his sexual orientation isn't sexual harassment.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    It should be off limits, for all orientations. The Army has no business in the sexual lives of its soldiers. But do you not see the hypocrisy in DADT? Let me give you this scenario, lets say Natalie is a soldier on leave, and she goes out to a restaurant with her girlfriend, the two are getting close, like couples do. Now another member of her unit is also at the restaurant, and spots the two, takes a photo of the two, and gives the photo to their commanding officer. Later Natalie gets discharged under the DADT policy. Do you think that this is okay? Do you not see the hypocrisy of this situation, and the fact that this would never happen to a heterosexual soldier?
    Hence, "Don't ask, don't tell". Welcome to the real world. 'Nuff said?!?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, you are claiming that there's no way a gay soldier/leader/supervisor/commander can discriminate against a straight service member?

    Please! Don't tell me you're a part of the, "they aren't able to discriminate", crowd.

    This is a classic case of Libbos doing more harm than good.
    No...I'm not saying that....But if that is the best that you can do in terms of debate...you are streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetching it.
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Hence, "Don't ask, don't tell". Welcome to the real world. 'Nuff said?!?
    And yet you ignore my scenario in which a gay soldier would be treated unjustly under DADT. Typical.

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Hence, "Don't ask, don't tell". Welcome to the real world. 'Nuff said?!?
    Fine.. That works for me. You would be willing to discharge any soldier that exposes his sexual orientation right? So any straight soldier that talks about a girlfriend or posts a pin up girl should be discharged....right?

    I'm glad that we both agree.
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Hence, "Don't ask, don't tell". Welcome to the real world. 'Nuff said?!?
    Here's the part of Your Star's post that you highlighted: "It should be off limits, for all orientations. The Army has no business in the sexual lives of its soldiers. "

    So, you agree that DADT should apply in the exact same way for heterosexuals, too? I ask for consistency's sake.
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Here's the part of Your Star's post that you highlighted: "It should be off limits, for all orientations. The Army has no business in the sexual lives of its soldiers. "

    So, you agree that DADT should apply in the exact same way for heterosexuals, too? I ask for consistency's sake.
    Somehow....I doubt that in aplication Apstd does.....
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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No...I'm not saying that....But if that is the best that you can do in terms of debate...you are streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetching it.
    So, since I'm streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetching it, how do you propose we discourage discrimination against a service member's sexual orientation? Are we to assume that it won't happen, simply because DADT has been repealed and that gays are incapable of discriminating against straights?

    I can't wait for the Libbos to answer this question that I've posted a half-dozen times, with no answer, other than, "oooh, it's sexual harassment".

    What's gonna happen when a gay company commander (an officer) and a gay platoon leader (an officer) go after a straight platoon sargeant (non-commissioned officer), because the platoon sargeant is at odds with the platoon leader? Let's don't act as if discrimination can't happen, because I've seen first hand how black officers will gang up on a white NCO.

    Any solution to that, other than, "gee! that won't happen, because gays are smarter and cooler than straights and **** like that"?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Here's the part of Your Star's post that you highlighted: "It should be off limits, for all orientations. The Army has no business in the sexual lives of its soldiers. "

    So, you agree that DADT should apply in the exact same way for heterosexuals, too? I ask for consistency's sake.
    Since you're always advocating that you're smarter than I am, you understand that that is what I said. yes?

    Am I unable to convey a point, or are some folks unable to comprehend that point? I havne't been to college; most of you ****ers claim the opposite. So, which is it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Army discharges don't ask critic who told

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Fine.. That works for me. You would be willing to discharge any soldier that exposes his sexual orientation right? So any straight soldier that talks about a girlfriend or posts a pin up girl should be discharged....right?

    I'm glad that we both agree.
    If we apply DADT to all soldiers, then yes. Your retort, sir?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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