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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire is not a new tax.
    It's a tax increase. You don't have to call it "new", but it's an increase nonetheless, and it's an increase the Messiah and the Democrats had two full years to reverse with a simple vote, and they declined to do so.

    That tax increase is, therefore, the Democrat's tax increase.

    And as far as the people earning the money are concerned, "new" and "old" don't mean squat when it's stealing money from them.

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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    finding that the commerce clause did not delegate that much power to the federal government is essentially a tenth amendment argument because powers not properly delegated to the federal government remain with the people and the several states but you are essentially correct.
    Ah, the magic commerce clause....used for when Congress wants to make rape a federal crime to satisfy some ridiculous power urge by women too ugly to go on dates with men, or to restrict gun ownership near public schools (for which there is no constitutional authority for the federal government to spend money on), or for anything else for which there's no real Constitutional authority for the Congress to meddle with, but by failed courts misinterpreting the Constitution they can create a fake loophole.

    Needless to say, if an exceptionally convenient power was magically "discovered" a hundred years after the Constitution was ratified, it's clear the magic is in the lie, not the Constitution.

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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    This one provision is absolutely HUGE. The 'death tax' is merely confiscation of wealth, as everyone knows. We're in a complete mess -- and there's not one darned thing we can do about it. Not one. This will likely not be acted upon until after the November election. We're skrood.
    You've only mentioned half the problem.

    The Messiah has appointed a man dedicated to rationing health care to head up Medicare and Medicaid.

    Couple that with the vast increase in value to the government of a dead man's estate.

    Do the math. The government saves money by withholding medical services, and the government pulls in the majority of his accumulated wealth when he croaks as a result of that denial of service.

    No conflict of interest happening there, nosir. Just ask the people demanding higher taxes and government run health care.

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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Hhmm.. Impeached tomorrow;as long as were on the law and order kick. Would you do that before or after you tried Bush and Cheney for war crimes in an International Criminal Court?
    Would have to be before, since Bush and Cheney, as Americans, shouldn't be tried in an International Kangaroo Court.

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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    The thread got derailed with the first mention of Obama's impeachment. Impeaching Obama is what is totally irrelevant to Obama's tax policy, and if you weren't being so disingenuous in your argument you would recognize that. It only naturally warranted a response in kind, and the comparison to Bush having been far more deserving of impeachment was quite a logical one to make.
    There's one solid reason to impeach Obama.

    He didn't read the Health Care Scam bill he signed. That makes him derelict in his duty and invalidates his signature.

    Well, it's a nice theory, anyway.

    The other question is can he be impeached for having been born in Kenya? How would that one work, Constitutionally? Hmmm...

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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire is not a new tax. And no, I am not bothered by them expiring. Nor ws I bothered by paying for the cost of health care reform. And I would not be bothered if we were asked to shoulder the cost of two wars, if we're going to fight them. We are the government, and what we want to do has to be pid for, be it war or health care or Social sercurity. that's called fiscal responsibility.

    Right, so paying more money, is not a net tax gain for people?


    Please, when people have to pay more, do you think semantics will help them swallow the pill more easily?
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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Now everyone likes to say, "You *want* to see the President fail? That's digusting."

    Why wasn't it disgusting to want the President to fail when Bush was in office...?
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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent View Post
    Now everyone likes to say, "You *want* to see the President fail? That's digusting."

    Why wasn't it disgusting to want the President to fail when Bush was in office...?
    There's only one thing I ever wanted Bush to fail at. And that was convincing people that invading Iraq was a good idea.

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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    More taxes. WOOOT!!!!!



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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Would have to be before, since Bush and Cheney, as Americans, shouldn't be tried in an International Kangaroo Court.
    Why shouldn’t they be?
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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