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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    I did, but you have not responded yet.
    Ah - I see now.

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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Don't blame Bush or Clinton for my partial hearing loss.








    So you like all these new taxes?
    Allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire is not a new tax. And no, I am not bothered by them expiring. Nor ws I bothered by paying for the cost of health care reform. And I would not be bothered if we were asked to shoulder the cost of two wars, if we're going to fight them. We are the government, and what we want to do has to be pid for, be it war or health care or Social sercurity. that's called fiscal responsibility.

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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    more opinions-you are pretending to know what will happen down the road.
    Again, incorrect. It doen't matter what happens down the road. It really doesn't. We can measure cost and benefit now, today. Democracy has no effect on terroism. There is no evidence that terrorism is effected by democracy. Nor is it logical to think Iraq will change what is happening in SA, or Pakistan, or even Iran. You've been sold a platitude, a pie in the sky fair tale. But that doesn't matter to objective analysis today.

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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, incorrect. It doen't matter what happens down the road. It really doesn't. We can measure cost and benefit now, today.
    OK... so you agree that The Obama's 'stimulus' plans have been complete failures because they have cost trillions to no good effect.

    Democracy has no effect on terroism. There is no evidence that terrorism is effected by democracy.
    How many open liberal drmocracies are terrorist states?

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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    How many open liberal drmocracies are terrorist states?
    I'm interested to know how many... how many Goobie?

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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    How many open liberal drmocracies are terrorist states?
    How many? How many open democracies other then the US have had terrorist activity?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    if the supreme court's current opinion is all that matters than we can tell all the libs who claim that there is no right to keep and bear arms to STFU?

    many statutes that were passed for "the general welfare" were struck down on tenth amendment grounds such as the Lopez decision which dealt with federal laws preventing firearms within a certain distance of schools.
    If I remember correctly, Lopez was based on commerce clause, not 10th
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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    How many open liberal drmocracies are terrorist states?
    Some reading for you:

    But this begs a fundamental question: Is it true that the more democratic a country becomes, the less likely it is to produce terrorists and terrorist groups? In other words, is the security rationale for promoting democracy in the Arab world based on a sound premise? Unfortunately, the answer appears to be no. Although what is known about terrorism is admittedly incomplete, the data available do not show a strong relationship between democracy and an absence of or a reduction in terrorism. Terrorism appears to stem from factors much more specific than regime type. Nor is it likely that democratization would end the current campaign against the United States. Al Qaeda and like-minded groups are not fighting for democracy in the Muslim world; they are fighting to impose their vision of an Islamic state. Nor is there any evidence that democracy in the Arab world would "drain the swamp," eliminating soft support for terrorist organizations among the Arab public and reducing the number of potential recruits for them.

    Can Democracy Stop Terrorism? | Foreign Affairs

    There have been some indications that terrorism has been more likely in democratic societies. In his study, Engene concluded that political openness facilitated terrorism in Western Europe.[13] Democracy made West Germany more vulnerable to outbreaks of terrorist incidents that occurred in that country.[14] It is perhaps most telling, however, that the violence by the Basque nationalists increased when a democratic system was created even though it was initially present under an authoritarian regime and that the violence continued into the twenty-first century after more than two decades of democracy. Sandler says that when analyses took into account the intensity of terrorist incidents, democracies appeared to suffer more from such political violence. [15]

    Pape in his study of suicide terrorism has suggested that this particular form of violence has been virtually restricted to democratic states. While suicide attacks have occurred in less open political systems such as Pakistan and Lebanon (when the country was in disarray), these kinds of attacks do appear to have been more prevalent in democracies. [16]

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    Conclusions

    Overall, the above analysis did not provide strong support for the idea that democracies have been more prone to terrorist violence — or at least international terrorism. The conventional wisdom of such a connection, however, cannot be discounted. Globally, the presence of democratic systems was at least at times negatively associated with more terrorism at marginal levels. The regional analysis indicated that in the Middle East the connection was very much stronger indeed. In addition, it was also obvious that the communist systems in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe were much more effective in preventing these kinds of attacks than the democracies of West Europe as was expected.

    Perspectives on Terrorism - Democracy and Terrorism

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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Frozengale View Post
    Can there be speculation without speculating? Of course he doesn't know what will happen down the road. But he can make an educated guess from the information at hand.
    you are correct he COULD make an educated guess. I will wait for one and then respond if it happens



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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    If I remember correctly, Lopez was based on commerce clause, not 10th
    finding that the commerce clause did not delegate that much power to the federal government is essentially a tenth amendment argument because powers not properly delegated to the federal government remain with the people and the several states but you are essentially correct.



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