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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, you can objectively determine if a candy bar is worth two lives and a billion dollars. In much the same way, you can objectively determine that we did not have just reason or cause to invade. And that it cost far more than we gained. You can't write that off as mere opinion.
    in all fairness if I were really hungry I'd trade you for a candy bar. It certainly would be worth more to me objectively.



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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    in all fairness if I were really hungry I'd trade you for a candy bar. It certainly would be worth more to me objectively.
    And can be measured objectively.

    Nothing adds up to justify Iraq.

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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And can be measured objectively.

    Nothing adds up to justify Iraq.
    feel free to predict the future objectively

    you are making stuff up now



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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is oozing bull crap. YOu cannot tell us how much we gained until many years into the future
    Sure you can. Even if Iraq becomes heaven on earth, we still spent too much. It is false to say we can't measure today. We spent a ton of money, help our enemy recruit, made things better for Iran, lost thousnads of lives, and we've no safer than we were. In fact, nothing in Iraq applies to our safety at all. No country attacked us, and a democracy has no effect on terrorist, the Bush premise flawed from the beginging. All of this can be objectively measured.

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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    So what you're saying is. You can't justify the invasion of Iraq. Good to know.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I don't have to

    we live in a representative constitutional government and that decision was made in accordance with our constitution by those charged with making the decision. You aren't smart enough to claim that you know all the information available to those who made that decision so you cannot make a definitive judgment. What I do know is that squashing one cockroach often causes other cockroaches to stop what they are doing. Saddam was a cockroach.

    Using your logic Welfare, the bailouts do not need to be justified because you are not smart enough to claim to know all the information that those who made the decision to enact those policies. As you state they were charged with making those decisions
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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    feel free to predict the future objectively

    you are making stuff up now
    Many do have foresight, and called what would happen in Iraq long before we went in (read Bush sr's book). However, that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about what is clearly measurable now.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Sure you can. Even if Iraq becomes heaven on earth, we still spent too much. It is false to say we can't measure today. We spent a ton of money, help our enemy recruit, made things better for Iran, lost thousnads of lives, and we've no safer than we were. In fact, nothing in Iraq applies to our safety at all. No country attacked us, and a democracy has no effect on terrorist, the Bush premise flawed from the beginging. All of this can be objectively measured.
    again you are making stuff up

    if our invasion of Iraq turns Iraq into a country like say Japan and Germany became a couple decades after WWII and from that stabilizes the mideast than it would be worth it

    you again are making opinions masquerade as fact



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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Using your logic Welfare, the bailouts do not need to be justified because you are not smart enough to claim to know all the information that those who made the decision to enact those policies. As you state they were charged with making those decisions
    nice try but the constitution delegates war to the president but welfare was not a power delegated to the executive or the congress.



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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    So what you're saying is. You can't justify the invasion of Iraq. Good to know.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    nice try but the constitution delegates war to the president but welfare was not a power delegated to the executive or the congress.
    You are of course forgetting a few words in the Constitution


    "promote the general welfare". What could promote the general welfare more then welfare?


    Of course you will say that is not what it means, but a strict interpretation of the words, it does. Just like the right to bear arms with a strict interpretation means you should be able to posses any weapon
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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    You are of course forgetting a few words in the Constitution


    "promote the general welfare". What could promote the general welfare more then welfare?
    LOL

    another constitutional lawyer wannabee

    that term as used in the 18th century had nothing to do with income redistribution

    try again, that topic has been beaten so hard on this forum it is now hamburger.

    we could call enslaving blacks "welfare" and that would make it constitutional?



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