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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Your opinion noted-again not shared

    there is no objective reasoning that justifies the costs of

    1) the war on poverty
    2) the war on drugs
    3) affirmative action
    4) The "Great Society"
    5) "The New Deal"
    Nice diversion, but the fact remainds, there is no justifiable or objective reasoning for the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Nothing holds up objectively.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nice diversion, but the fact remainds, there is no justifiable or objective reasoning for the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Nothing holds up objectively.
    again your opinion--a statement you cannot prove. It is based on your values and I merely can disagree.

    you'd be better off arguing Red is a better color than blue



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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    again your opinion--a statement you cannot prove. It is based on your values and I merely can disagree.

    you'd be better off arguing Red is a better color than blue
    So what you're saying is. You can't justify the invasion of Iraq. Good to know.

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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    So what you're saying is. You can't justify the invasion of Iraq. Good to know.
    I don't have to

    we live in a representative constitutional government and that decision was made in accordance with our constitution by those charged with making the decision. You aren't smart enough to claim that you know all the information available to those who made that decision so you cannot make a definitive judgment. What I do know is that squashing one cockroach often causes other cockroaches to stop what they are doing. Saddam was a cockroach.



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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    again your opinion--a statement you cannot prove. It is based on your values and I merely can disagree.

    you'd be better off arguing Red is a better color than blue
    No, there are objective values.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so lets jack up taxes on the people who drive the spending and don't pay enough since they are the ones who vote for most of that reckless spending.
    And that would be the rich and the industry owners, for the most part. Don't forget that the affluent create tax policy.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the rich pay far more than their dues-they pay the dues of about half or more of society
    And they want it that way.

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    time for the slackers to step up ot the plate
    You can't tax the lower classes beyond the current rates or they will not be able to survive. That is the whole reason why taxing the poor beyond a stable living standard has never been an effective revenue policy, and it leads to social unrest.

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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, there are objective values.
    more lamer nonsense.

    your opinion is not objective



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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    And that would be the rich and the industry owners, for the most part. Don't forget that the affluent create tax policy.



    And they want it that way.



    You can't tax the lower classes beyond the current rates or they will not be able to survive. That is the whole reason why taxing the poor beyond a stable living standard has never been an effective revenue policy, and it leads to social unrest.
    1) those who are rich because they pander to the parasite class are the ones who formulated the tax policy that infects our nation

    2) those who claim to represent the producers of wealth sort of go along with it because they get power from that as well. Its like civil defense attorneys not being huge fans of tort reform because they justify 500 dollar an hour fees by the fear their clients have of being looted by parasites like John Edwards

    3) Some of the rich want it that way if they think it makes them richer than the alternative. Others don't.

    4) the lower taxes can certainly pay more taxes. And raising their taxes would create an effective brake on their desires for more government spending that they don't have to fund. when most of our "poor" own cars and tv's and cell phones we are well away from some modern day Bastille day if they are given less and told to pay more.

    besides, a massive uprising by the poor would result in some self-corrections resulting in far less poor



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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    more lamer nonsense.

    your opinion is not objective
    No, you can objectively determine if a candy bar is worth two lives and a billion dollars. In much the same way, you can objectively determine that we did not have just reason or cause to invade. And that it cost far more than we gained. You can't write that off as mere opinion.

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    Re: The Tax Tsunami On The Horizon

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, you can objectively determine if a candy bar is worth two lives and a billion dollars. In much the same way, you can objectively determine that we did not have just reason or cause to invade. And that it cost far more than we gained. You can't write that off as mere opinion.

    that is oozing bull crap. YOu cannot tell us how much we gained until many years into the future



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