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    Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew

    A Palestinian man has been convicted of rape after having consensual sex with a woman who had believed him to be a fellow Jew.


    Sabbar Kashur, 30, was sentenced to 18 months in prison on Monday after the court ruled that he was guilty of rape by deception. According to the complaint filed by the woman with the Jerusalem district court, the two met in downtown Jerusalem in September 2008 where Kashur, an Arab from East Jerusalem, introduced himself as a Jewish bachelor seeking a serious relationship. The two then had consensual sex in a nearby building before Kashur left.
    This issue is a sticky one. Is the conviction proper, or was the Arab man wrongfully convicted of rape? Personally, I believe no criminal charges should have been filed, but there is definitely a civil suit here for misrepresentation.

    What would it be like in America if Rape by Deception was a crime? Just think of all those guys at McDonald's, who tell women that they are scientists or corporate executives, that would be in prison right now. That could be at least 20% of everybody who posts on the internet. LOL.

    Seriously, though, what do you think?

    Article is here.
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    Re: Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew

    Wow... a man deceiving a woman in order to get her in the sack??? Call Ripley's Believe It or Not, that has got to be a first!
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    Re: Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew

    OMG! SOMEONE LIED ABOUT THEMSELVES! IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD!
    Isn't this basically just a sex-con? I mean how can that even be considered Rape? By definition rape is a non consensual thing, she consented under false premises, but it's still consent.

    EDIT- I think Rape by deception would be more along the lines of blackmailing someone into having sex with you.

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    Re: Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    This issue is a sticky one. Is the conviction proper, or was the Arab man wrongfully convicted of rape? Personally, I believe no criminal charges should have been filed, but there is definitely a civil suit here for misrepresentation.

    What would it be like in America if Rape by Deception was a crime? Just think of all those guys at McDonald's, who tell women that they are scientists or corporate executives, that would be in prison right now. That could be at least 20% of everybody who posts on the internet. LOL.

    Seriously, though, what do you think?

    Article is here.
    I can't even understand why you would call it a sticky issue. It was consensual sex. Enough said. I will never understand this culture or religion. It is so archiac as to be mind-boggling. If these people want to be respected in the world and have a place on the world stage, they've got to look into themselves and begin slowly changing these ridiculous practices.

    If this kind of law were allowed in the US, our prisons couldn't even hold the offenders. "I'm single." "I'm divorced." "I'm a doctor." And, yes, some Christians would say they were Jews. Parish the thought.

    By the way, is this woman, an Arab, in any danger of being stoned to death because she had sex before marriage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I can't even understand why you would call it a sticky issue. It was consensual sex. Enough said. I will never understand this culture or religion. It is so archiac as to be mind-boggling. If these people want to be respected in the world and have a place on the world stage, they've got to look into themselves and begin slowly changing these ridiculous practices.

    If this kind of law were allowed in the US, our prisons couldn't even hold the offenders. "I'm single." "I'm divorced." "I'm a doctor." And, yes, some Christians would say they were Jews. Parish the thought.

    By the way, is this woman, an Arab, in any danger of being stoned to death because she had sex before marriage?
    True, they might say "I'm Catholic" too.
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    Re: Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I can't even understand why you would call it a sticky issue. It was consensual sex. Enough said. I will never understand this culture or religion. It is so archiac as to be mind-boggling. If these people want to be respected in the world and have a place on the world stage, they've got to look into themselves and begin slowly changing these ridiculous practices.

    If this kind of law were allowed in the US, our prisons couldn't even hold the offenders. "I'm single." "I'm divorced." "I'm a doctor." And, yes, some Christians would say they were Jews. Parish the thought.

    By the way, is this woman, an Arab, in any danger of being stoned to death because she had sex before marriage?
    Arab man, Jewish woman.

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    Re: Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew

    Rape by deception is actually a crime - somewhere (like in one state) in the US . . . I remember a debate about it from *years* ago.
    I think it had to do with a woman who was really a genetic man lying about her gender-change.
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    Re: Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    Arab man, Jewish woman.
    Hmmm, maybe there was a jihad in his pants, and face it, nobody can quell an "uprising" like the Jews can.
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    Re: Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew

    O!M!G!

    California and Tennessee already have "rape by fraud" legislation. If the law passes here, a common concern is that the legislation's vague language regarding deception will result in women who have been seduced by men posing as someone else or claiming to be unmarried filing rape charges.
    Massachusetts considering it as well. Rape 'by Deception' May Become A Crime In Massachusetts - CBS News

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    Re: Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    O!M!G!

    Massachusetts considering it as well. Rape 'by Deception' May Become A Crime In Massachusetts - CBS News

    Guys, a whole bunch a'you are in a whoooole bunch a'trouble.
    HAHAHAHA God I sort of want MA to make it a law so most of my guy friends will die because they can't lie about themselves to get laid anymore.

    Anyways per the actual OP, it is stupid that he is in jail for lying about something like this.

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