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    Re: Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Approximately 0 females have lied to get me in the sack.
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    Like they would need to lie to get you in the sack.
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    Re: Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Approximately 0 females have lied to get me in the sack.
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    They were just smart enough not to get caught.
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    Re: Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew

    Anyhoo, as I said in the other thread:

    Lying, unless it's perjury in a court of law or it directly results in another offense such as inflicting bodily harm, theft or defamation of character should not be punishable by law. Taking Mohamed to court because he lied and told you his name was Samuel is not a good reason to jail someone. What this judge has done is to reward this woman for her prejudice. He just sent out a loud and clear message that racism is totally acceptable.

    This woman should be ashamed of herself. I can't believe I share a gender with the likes of her. Her actions are just as despicable as those of the man who lied to get in her pants. She picks up some stranger on the street, chats with him for two minutes, willingly has sex with him and then has the audacity to have him prosecuted for rape??

    Humans disgust me sometimes.

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    Re: Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew

    Hard for me to really have an opinion on this as I don't know what the laws are or the society really. I would view it similar to the alcohol thing here. Sex while intoxicated is in a sense consensual, albiet possibly due to altered reality. But in our society its viewed as definitive rape because its what the law is and just how most have been raised to think.

    I could easily see elsewhere having a society, based on laws and customs, that thinks knowingly decieving people about yourself in regards to things that are likely to help/harm you getting laid is essentially altering reality and thus is making it so that the sex isn't really "consensual". Think of it as being sold a car that you were told was in good condition and was like new and on first glance and inspection appeared that way, and then after you get it home realizing all the parts inside are actually on the verge of breaking and the AC actually recycles exhaust into the car after 10 minutes of riding. One would say they were "decieved" and while they knowingly bought the car, they bought it under false pretenses. If a society views sex by deception as as a similar type thing then, much like our society and booze, I can definitely see it being acceptable as rape.

    I guess what I'm saying is while I think that'd make little sense in our society, I could very easily see it in another culture and without knowing more information it'd be hard for me to say if its "wrong" or not for this man to be charged.

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    Re: Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew

    For having sex while drunk to be considered rape the woman has to be extremely drunk though, near the pass out level.


    As for buying a car, if you buy it without a warranty and did not get it checked out by a mechanic before purchase you are typically SOL.

    This woman voluntarily engaged in sex, and rapidly so from what the reports say. She did not require alot of convincing to get her to have sex (a few minutes).

    This was not rape, it was not a crime.

    It was just voluntary sex by two people, one who regreted it after because either the guy was married or because he was arabic
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    Re: Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    This was not rape, it was not a crime.
    My apologizes, I did not realize your extensive knowledge of Israeli law. Well, if there is no Israeli law stating that sex by deception is rape then I absolutely agree with you, its not a crime. Thanks for clearing it up.

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    Re: Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    My apologizes, I did not realize your extensive knowledge of Israeli law. Well, if there is no Israeli law stating that sex by deception is rape then I absolutely agree with you, its not a crime. Thanks for clearing it up.
    It might be against the law but it was not a crime
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    Re: Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew

    So you're using "Crime" as in a crime against nature or more coloquiel use such as "its a crime she's wearing white after labor day" and not, you know, the commonly used term when discussing legal issues which is violating a LAW or engaging in criminal activity which is violating the authority of the state. Is this what you're saying? Do you routinely use crime in this fashion when taking about a situation which is discussing legality?

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    Re: Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So you're using "Crime" as in a crime against nature or more coloquiel use such as "its a crime she's wearing white after labor day" and not, you know, the commonly used term when discussing legal issues which is violating a LAW or engaging in criminal activity which is violating the authority of the state. Is this what you're saying? Do you routinely use crime in this fashion when taking about a situation which is discussing legality?
    In this particular case I am.
    It is a stupid law, and a stupid law may make something illegal, but not a crime as such

    If the government made wearing blue shirts illegal I would not consider it to be a crime to wear a blue shirt, lieing to get sex might be illegal but it certainly is not a crime
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    Re: Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I guess it depends on what you mean by "consent." Is it more important that she consented to having sex with the man? Or is it more important that she consented to having sex with the Arab man claiming to be Jewish? Personally I think the man should be jailed. Obviously she would have changed her mind if the man wasn't a Jew. She consented to having sex with the "Jewish" man, not the lying Arab guy. I think it's a violation of women's rights and abuse to allow people to lie and seduce others into having sex.
    Maybe she should be sentenced to jail for being a "blonde".
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