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    Re: White House apologizes to ousted official

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And she violated which one?
    No problem:

    These federal and D.C. employees may not:

    use official authority or influence to interfere with an election

    solicit or discourage political activity of anyone with business before their agency

    solicit or receive political contributions (may be done in certain limited situations by federal labor or other employee organizations)
    be candidates for public office in partisan elections

    engage in political activity while:

    on duty

    in a government office

    wearing an official uniform

    using a government vehicle

    wear partisan political buttons on duty
    At 40:29, she gives a political plug for Obama. Sounds like partisan campaigning to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: White House apologizes to ousted official

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    OMG!! What part of, "presidents are exempt", don't you understand?

    It's not bull****, dude.
    Actually, it IS bull****.

    The Hatch Act specifically says that Federal employees cannot:

    * use official authority or influence to interfere with an election
    * solicit or discourage political activity of anyone with business before their agency
    * solicit or receive political contributions (may be done in certain limited situations by federal labor or other employee organizations)
    * be candidates for public office in partisan elections
    * engage in political activity while:
    o on duty
    o in a government office
    o wearing an official uniform
    o using a government vehicle
    * wear partisan political buttons on duty
    1) Show me where she interfered with an election.

    2) Show me where she engaged in political activity with someone who had business before her agency.

    3) Show me where she solicited political contributions.

    4) Show me where she was a candidate for public office in a partisan election.

    5) Show me where she was on duty while engaging in political activity.

    6) Show me where she engaged in political activity in a government office.

    7) Show me where she engaged in political activity while wearing an official government uniform.

    8) Show me where she engaged in political activity using a government vehicle.

    9) Show me where she engaged in political activity while wearing a partisan campaign button.

    10) Game over, thanx for playing.

    EDIT: Damn, Redress beat me to this total smackdown. LOL.
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    Re: White House apologizes to ousted official

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post

    These federal and D.C. employees may not:

    use official authority or influence to interfere with an election
    She did this? You have some evidence?

    solicit or discourage political activity of anyone with business before their agency
    Nope, didn't do this either.

    solicit or receive political contributions (may be done in certain limited situations by federal labor or other employee organizations)
    Nope.

    be candidates for public office in partisan elections
    She is not running for office, so nope.

    engage in political activity while:

    on duty

    in a government office

    wearing an official uniform

    using a government vehicle

    wear partisan political buttons on duty
    None of this, so fail.

    Edit to reflect yours:

    At 40:29, she gives a political plug for Obama. Sounds like partisan campaigning to me.
    No campaign in progress at this point, so again, fail.
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    Re: White House apologizes to ousted official

    She showed as and was billed as, state director for the USDA, not as, Shirley Sherrod. Since she was there, using her official title, that made it an official visit.

    Further Restricted Employees – Examples of Prohibited Activities
    Further Restricted federal employees may not, for example:

    campaign for or against a candidate or slate of candidates in partisan elections

    make campaign speeches

    collect contributions or sell tickets to political fund raising functions

    distribute campaign material in partisan elections

    organize or manage political rallies or meetings

    hold office in political clubs or parties

    circulate nominating petitions

    work to register voters for partisan voter registration drives

    host a political fundraiser

    invite anyone to a political fundraiser

    accept or receive a donation or contribution for a partisan political party, candidate for partisan political office, or partisan political group

    use an official title or position while engaged in political activity

    supervisory employees may not invite subordinate employees to political events or otherwise suggest to the subordinate that he or she attend the political event or undertake any partisan political activity

    http://www.osc.gov/haFederalFurtherR...Activities.htm
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: White House apologizes to ousted official

    The quote at 40:29

    "If there was ever a time to own a home, it is now, and you can thank President Obama for that."

    Not campaigning. Time to stop grasping at straws.
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    Re: White House apologizes to ousted official

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    She showed as and was billed as, state director for the USDA, not as, Shirley Sherrod. Since she was there, using her official title, that made it an official visit.
    You can show that using your title makes it an official visit?
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    Re: White House apologizes to ousted official

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The quote at 40:29

    "If there was ever a time to own a home, it is now, and you can thank President Obama for that."

    Not campaigning. Time to stop grasping at straws.
    It's not restricted to campaigning as I've pointed out from the goverment's website, where it says, "use an official title or position while engaged in political activity".

    The NAACP is a partisan political group. She gave a political plug for Obama while she was there.

    She's in violation of the Hatch Act, unless of course, she makes this same speech and presents the same information to groups other than the NAACP.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: White House apologizes to ousted official

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You can show that using your title makes it an official visit?
    Look at post #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: White House apologizes to ousted official

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Look at post #84
    That does not prove it was an official visit, and she was giving a speech on race, which is not a political activity. Double fail.
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    Re: White House apologizes to ousted official

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    She showed as and was billed as, state director for the USDA, not as, Shirley Sherrod. Since she was there, using her official title, that made it an official visit.
    You are behind the times, grandpa................

    Last edited by danarhea; 07-22-10 at 12:00 AM.
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