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    Re: White House apologizes to ousted official

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Let me explain once more my point, and I'll try to use small words.

    I was talking about how LIBERALS reacted.

    I was pointing out how conservatives like yourself are making a big stink over this, and I pointed out the hypocrisy of these same conservatives never making many threads about racism when it's a white person saying something racist about blacks.

    Someone then said basically "Oh yeah, well liberals never take action when blacks say something about whites."

    I then pointed out THIS VERY SAME EXAMPLE -- the one we're discussing now -- the one that the conservatives are pulling their hairs out over. This case, where a black person said something bad about a white person -- this one -- (understand yet?) THIS CASE shows that liberals do indeed take action, because action was taken.

    That action was proven to be wrong, but it shows that the liberals aren't the ones being hypocrites here.

    There, did that help or should I draw pictures?
    I guess you better draw pictures. You were once again asserting that what she said wasn't racist. See here:
    something about someone who (wrongly) was accused of being racists against whites.
    I'd get out my sketch pad, but I'm a ****ty artist, so I'll settle for quotes and bolded words.
    My argument was that she WAS acting racist and was NOT wrongly accused. It had nothing to do with hypocracy of liberals or conservatives.
    Sorry for the confusion.

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    Re: White House apologizes to ousted official

    Quote Originally Posted by Rightwingnutjob View Post
    I guess you better draw pictures. You were once again asserting that what she said wasn't racist. See here:

    I'd get out my sketch pad, but I'm a ****ty artist, so I'll settle for quotes and bolded words.
    My argument was that she WAS acting racist and was NOT wrongly accused. It had nothing to do with hypocracy of liberals or conservatives.
    Sorry for the confusion.
    Man, did you pick a good sign on name.

    I contend that she was wrongly accused of being racist, yes. She in fact spoke out AGAINST racism, in case you can't figure that out. She spoke about racist views she had 24 years ago.

    I can just imagine what your church is like:

    "Father, I have to confess that 24 years ago I hit my wife. I realized I was wrong, I saw the light, and I have spent the last 24 years asking for forgiveness and preaching to others about my past sin."

    "Son, you are NOT forgiven! You should be kicked out of the church, you wife beater! You all heard him, he confessed to being a wife beater! If there is one thing we don't allow here, it's forgiveness for what you did 24 years ago, and whatever sin you did in the past will constantly haunt you and nothing you can do will ever change that!"

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    Re: White House apologizes to ousted official

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Man, did you pick a good sign on name.

    I contend that she was wrongly accused of being racist, yes. She in fact spoke out AGAINST racism, in case you can't figure that out. She spoke about racist views she had 24 years ago.

    I can just imagine what your church is like:

    "Father, I have to confess that 24 years ago I hit my wife. I realized I was wrong, I saw the light, and I have spent the last 24 years asking for forgiveness and preaching to others about my past sin."

    "Son, you are NOT forgiven! You should be kicked out of the church, you wife beater! You all heard him, he confessed to being a wife beater! If there is one thing we don't allow here, it's forgiveness for what you did 24 years ago, and whatever sin you did in the past will constantly haunt you and nothing you can do will ever change that!"
    I'm athiest, possibly agnostic. So save the assumptions. As if I haven't hear 'the name joke' before (about a bajillion times!). So 24 years later it now means she wasn't wrong then? She was wrong, it doesn't matter that she tried to make ammends. She WAS wrong. I'm not saying she should have been fired today, but I do believe her actions were disgusting at the time. I commend her on overcoming her prejudices, while fully believing she was wrong.

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    Re: White House apologizes to ousted official

    Most folks understand, partisan hacks notwithstanding, that the rightwing propaganda machine is slanted, misleading and outright lies in order to give their sheeple what they want. That's all well and good. It's sells advertising and musters a market base. We can't really expect much more from their followers.

    But I do find it sorely disappointing, and downright scary, that our leaders in Washington were gullable enough to fall for their crap. Those people monitor the "red phone" and have their hand next to the "red button." I would expect them to be a bit smarter than the rightwing, spoonfed, sheeple. Appearantly, they are not.

    If there is anything positive about this is that they are righting wrongs and making amends. And, it is also a glowing example of how our rightwing media machine lies, slants, spins their propaganda just to satisfy their America hating, disgruntled followers. I expect the RW sheeple to swallow their media spew hook, line and sinker. The get no points for intelligence. Never have. But the people in high office should know better. The common man on the street does (rightwing zealots notwithstanding. They believe anything that pleases their ear.)
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    Re: White House apologizes to ousted official

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Most folks understand, partisan hacks notwithstanding, that the rightwing propaganda machine is slanted, misleading and outright lies in order to give their sheeple what they want. That's all well and good. It's sells advertising and musters a market base. We can't really expect much more from their followers.

    But I do find it sorely disappointing, and downright scary, that our leaders in Washington were gullable enough to fall for their crap. Those people monitor the "red phone" and have their hand next to the "red button." I would expect them to be a bit smarter than the rightwing, spoonfed, sheeple. Appearantly, they are not.

    If there is anything positive about this is that they are righting wrongs and making amends. And, it is also a glowing example of how our rightwing media machine lies, slants, spins their propaganda just to satisfy their America hating, disgruntled followers. I expect the RW sheeple to swallow their media spew hook, line and sinker. The get no points for intelligence. Never have. But the people in high office should know better. The common man on the street does (rightwing zealots notwithstanding. They believe anything that pleases their ear.)
    Nice sweeping generalization.

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    Re: White House apologizes to ousted official

    Quote Originally Posted by Rightwingnutjob View Post
    So 24 years later it now means she wasn't wrong then?
    OF COURSE SHE WAS WRONG! EVEN SHE SAID SHE WAS WRONG!

    The problem is in calling her a racist NOW for things she said 24 years ago.

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    Re: White House apologizes to ousted official

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Most folks understand, partisan hacks notwithstanding, that the rightwing propaganda machine is slanted, misleading and outright lies in order to give their sheeple what they want. That's all well and good. It's sells advertising and musters a market base. We can't really expect much more from their followers.

    But I do find it sorely disappointing, and downright scary, that our leaders in Washington were gullable enough to fall for their crap. Those people monitor the "red phone" and have their hand next to the "red button." I would expect them to be a bit smarter than the rightwing, spoonfed, sheeple. Appearantly, they are not.

    If there is anything positive about this is that they are righting wrongs and making amends. And, it is also a glowing example of how our rightwing media machine lies, slants, spins their propaganda just to satisfy their America hating, disgruntled followers. I expect the RW sheeple to swallow their media spew hook, line and sinker. The get no points for intelligence. Never have. But the people in high office should know better. The common man on the street does (rightwing zealots notwithstanding. They believe anything that pleases their ear.)
    I don't get where the "right-wing media" comes into play here. A video was released - it wasn't the full video, but it wasn't anything more than a video, for people to make of it what they would make of it. And the NAACP reacted more quickly and hastily than the "right-wing media" at Fox News apparently were told to:
    Bill O'Reilly apologizes to Shirley Sherrod for 'not doing my homework' | Show Tracker | Los Angeles Times
    Both Sherrod and the NAACP – which first condemned her remarks, then reversed itself -- put the blame in part on Fox News for hyping the story, a charged the cable news channel rejected.

    Michael Clemente, senior vice president of news editorial, said the network’s news programs reported the story with caution. “When I heard about this Monday morning and saw it on Breitbart’s website, I said, ‘OK, could be a story, let’s check it out,’ ” Clemente said. “We did the normal fact-finding we would do on any story.”

    At an afternoon editorial meeting Monday, Clemente urged the staff to first get the facts and obtain comment from Sherrod before going on air, according to internal notes from the meeting that were provided to The Times. “Let’s make sure we do this right,” he said.
    The story created the hype, not the other way around; nobody is at fault for "hyping" the tape, and if they are, then the hype comes from both the left and the right.

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    Re: White House apologizes to ousted official

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    OF COURSE SHE WAS WRONG! EVEN SHE SAID SHE WAS WRONG!

    The problem is in calling her a racist NOW for things she said 24 years ago.
    I don't recall saying she was a racist now, but I'm not going to go through the thread in double check. If I did, I was wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rightwingnutjob View Post
    Nice sweeping generalization.
    C'mon man. I was VERY careful to single out the rightwing "zealots and sheep" so as to NOT paint conservatism with one paint brush. Most thinking conservatives know better than to listen to that O'Reilly, Hannity, and Beck spew. BUT, there is no shortage of those who do not.

    The sad part is, even after this blatant display of rightwing propaganda tactics, there are some that will still swear by the aforementioned media hacks. They let people piss in their hair and convince them it's raining. But what can ya do? Stupidity is still legal here in the USA. One only has to be of legal age to vote. Intelligence has no bearing on the right to vote. America. Gotta love it!

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    I agree with that -- a right wing blogger may have started it, but both left and right take the blame for buying it without checking. The media is supposed to be a watchdog, but it's a damned lazy one.

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