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    Re: USDA Official Saying She Didn't Give 'Full Force' of Help to White Farmer resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    There is NO EVIDENCE that she has acted inappropriately in her appointment to USDA.
    Furthermore, the white farmer that she helped seems to think that she did a good job and helped them keep their farm. It's an odd story in the end, and I guess shows the disconnect between the world of politics and the real world.

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    Re: USDA Official Saying She Didn't Give 'Full Force' of Help to White Farmer resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I think maybe the Conservatives have been scammed.
    This woman probably should not have been fired. We didn't look at the whole picture before jumping to conclusions.
    Then the WH jumps to the same conclusion (or did they) and insists this woman pull her car over and resign immediately because the tape was going to be on Glenn Beck last night.
    Easy Trigger. Not "the conservatives". Some. Some very eager and willing participants in the 'scam' embraced it because it fits their argument.

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    Re: USDA Official Saying She Didn't Give 'Full Force' of Help to White Farmer resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    If this were a white man or a white woman - they'd be fired in a nano-second. I think Obama got it right this time.
    Here is the funny terrible train wreck irony...Fox News was on during lunch and they covered this story...and what did they cover? How bad it was that Obama coerced this woman to resign before really knowing the full facts of the event.

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    Re: USDA Official Saying She Didn't Give 'Full Force' of Help to White Farmer resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Easy Trigger. Not "the conservatives". Some. Some very eager and willing participants in the 'scam' embraced it because it fits their argument.
    Well, I would have to say that I was wrong if there is more to the story than originally revealed.. I read the Fox News report and I assumed it contained truth in her violating the rules of her job, using racism and betraying the power of her position. Today I feel shame in saying that I willingly read Fox News and it made me think stupidly.

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    Re: USDA Official Saying She Didn't Give 'Full Force' of Help to White Farmer resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Dunno - to me what she did at the time and what she conveyed to the NAACP was racist. She told a racist story. Now that it comes out she became friends with the farmer - that doesn't lessen or excuse anything. It was 1968 - one can say well --- it was the "times". Perhaps. And knee jerk by this White House? Absolutely - they wouldn't know a measured or thoughtful response if it bit them in the ass.

    There is a moral to the story though: Don't tell racist stories to groups of people where you have even a chance of being put on video. You can and will be held accountable for your past misdeeds.

    Remember: Macaca? No one ever heard of the word before ... but it was enough to cause outrage. And let's put this into perspective and turn it around. Let's say she was not black but was white - and these were poor black farmers. The same thing would have occurred - she would have been fired and the big outrage would have played out in the media just as it is now. In fact, this might be the most even handed and un-racist act, now that I think about it, the White House has divvied out. This would have happened if she was white, and it happened the same way that she was black. Hm... I may have to think about this some more and I might take back what I said about the White House.
    Well...on the plus side I DID say I wasnt going to hold my breath...

    Sigh...

    You have seen about a minute and twenty seconds of a speech. You took a woman that addressed a group of people and told them that she learned from her mistake 24 years ago and decided no past action is reconcilable and no good deed goes unpunished.

    It is as exasperating watching the dogged defense of an indefensible position.

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    Re: USDA Official Saying She Didn't Give 'Full Force' of Help to White Farmer resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggae_6 View Post
    Today I feel shame in saying that I willingly read Fox News and it made me think stupidly.
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    Re: USDA Official Saying She Didn't Give 'Full Force' of Help to White Farmer resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggae_6 View Post
    Well, I would have to say that I was wrong if there is more to the story than originally revealed.. I read the Fox News report and I assumed it contained truth in her violating the rules of her job, using racism and betraying the power of her position. Today I feel shame in saying that I willingly read Fox News and it made me think stupidly.
    Which job? The one she held 24 years ago working for a private non-profit organization...the one in which she learned a valuable positive life altering lesson which she attempted to share with others? The one in which she took that same client and after he was abandoned by the white lawyer she had intially referred him to she then jumped through hoops to help with later?

    Or the job this woman who learned...who grew...who changed in a positive way currently held some 24 years later?

    And we wonder why there is never any growth or change in this quest to stamp out racism.

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    Re: USDA Official Saying She Didn't Give 'Full Force' of Help to White Farmer resigns

    What a racist turd. I can only imagine if this were the other way around, and it was a white official in the Bush administration talking about some "uppity black farmer" who he decided to not help, and instead send to "his own people".

    The sad part is that she almost redeemed herself, and almost said that it was about poverty, not about black and white. But unlike what her (disgustingly numerous) defenders are asserting, she did not ever actually say this. She stopped herself mid-sentence, and said "It IS about black and white", but it's okay because she sent him to "his own people" to deal with him.

    Well, that's the sad part, but not the most dispicable. First there's the audience's reaction - they're clearly pleased when she says she didn't help him, and that's probably part of what encouraged her to retract her almost saying that it isn't about race (the other part being that she's a racist turd). Then there's the fact that she talks about this "white farmer" who was "trying to act superior to her", clearly without any evidence that race was on his mind, and clearly because she sees things in black and white and assumed he would have race on his mind. It's no different than a white person saying a black person acted "uppity" for talking a lot and sounding smart. But the worst part by far is how she talks about sending this "white farmer" to "his own people", which is no different from supporting segregation. What's really sad is that all of this probably reflects the thinking of a lot of black people, such as those in the NAACP in the audience. Everything was about race - she admitted such, after almost admitting the opposite - and everything is seen as in black and white; black farmer or white farmer, his people and my people, them and us. A sad state of affairs.

    Come to think of it, it's sort of ironic - metaphorically, the people (like Sharrod) who see things in black and white are the opposite of metaphorically colorblind.

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    Re: USDA Official Saying She Didn't Give 'Full Force' of Help to White Farmer resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Well...on the plus side I DID say I wasnt going to hold my breath...

    Sigh...

    You have seen about a minute and twenty seconds of a speech. You took a woman that addressed a group of people and told them that she learned from her mistake 24 years ago and decided no past action is reconcilable and no good deed goes unpunished.
    Post the entire speech. I'd like to see it - apparently you have and there's some moral equivelency to the rest of the speech that weighs heavily on the part deemed racist.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: USDA Official Saying She Didn't Give 'Full Force' of Help to White Farmer resigns

    Just so you all know....Glenn Beck doesn't think she should've been fired either.


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