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    Re: Palin sparks Twitter fight on mosque

    Last time I checked it was innocent until proven guilty in this part of the word, and not guilt by association.

    These Muslims are free to build whatever they want on their property, just like any other faith. People are also free to complain about it as if there is some automatic link to Al Qaeda, but have fun proving that delusion.

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    Re: Palin sparks Twitter fight on mosque

    A few things make me suspicious of this whole thing. First - down town - there's little to no one living near the WTC, so a mosque there is not really going to be a mosque, it's going to be a monument or a show place of sorts. Second - the proximity to the WTC lends some credibility to the charge: Islam builds monuments on their victories. That's an inflammatory charge but history does tend to show where Islam had victory's - monuments were erected, most of them were built or converted to mosques. One of the most famous - Hagia Sofia in Istanbul. Third, the imam view on Islam and aspects of sharia are a little disturbing. I personally find the proximity distasteful and laugh at the liberal diversity nonsense of Bloomberg as elitist and ignorant politics. He wants to show how ameniable New Yorkers are inviting Islam to the WTC. American's are forgiving but most are not THAT forgiving - and yes, it's been 10 years. I'd personally reject this building - tell them to find another spot in NY where we'd be happy to help them build. If they're dead set on this spot --- come back in another 20 years and we'll discuss it then.
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    Re: Palin sparks Twitter fight on mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    A few things make me suspicious of this whole thing. First - down town - there's little to no one living near the WTC, so a mosque there is not really going to be a mosque, it's going to be a monument or a show place of sorts. Second - the proximity to the WTC lends some credibility to the charge: Islam builds monuments on their victories. That's an inflammatory charge but history does tend to show where Islam had victory's - monuments were erected, most of them were built or converted to mosques. One of the most famous - Hagia Sofia in Istanbul. Third, the imam view on Islam and aspects of sharia are a little disturbing. I personally find the proximity distasteful and laugh at the liberal diversity nonsense of Bloomberg as elitist and ignorant politics. He wants to show how ameniable New Yorkers are inviting Islam to the WTC. American's are forgiving but most are not THAT forgiving - and yes, it's been 10 years. I'd personally reject this building - tell them to find another spot in NY where we'd be happy to help them build. If they're dead set on this spot --- come back in another 20 years and we'll discuss it then.
    That makes sense. It's a super sekret plot to erect a statue to a big victory over their own nation, and let kids go swimming and pray. Thanks for applying such strenuous logic to this.
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    Re: Palin sparks Twitter fight on mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    A few things make me suspicious of this whole thing. First - down town - there's little to no one living near the WTC, so a mosque there is not really going to be a mosque, it's going to be a monument or a show place of sorts. Second - the proximity to the WTC lends some credibility to the charge: Islam builds monuments on their victories. That's an inflammatory charge but history does tend to show where Islam had victory's - monuments were erected, most of them were built or converted to mosques. One of the most famous - Hagia Sofia in Istanbul. Third, the imam view on Islam and aspects of sharia are a little disturbing. I personally find the proximity distasteful and laugh at the liberal diversity nonsense of Bloomberg as elitist and ignorant politics. He wants to show how ameniable New Yorkers are inviting Islam to the WTC. American's are forgiving but most are not THAT forgiving - and yes, it's been 10 years. I'd personally reject this building - tell them to find another spot in NY where we'd be happy to help them build. If they're dead set on this spot --- come back in another 20 years and we'll discuss it then.
    What's this nonsense about Islam having a "victory"? Last time I checked it wasn't Islam that attacked us. It was Al-Qaeda, and too assume everyone who is muslim is a terrorist is just plain wrong.

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    Re: Palin sparks Twitter fight on mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Would you be cool with the KKK building a monument to fallen Klansmen, a few blocks from the 16th Street Church in Brimingham?
    All of Islam = the KKK to you?

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    Re: Palin sparks Twitter fight on mosque

    I havent payed much attention to this since I really dont a flying **** but in my observations much of the opposition are people who dont live/arent even from NYC let along New York state. Its quite funny listening to carpetbaggers preach what we should and should not do. If the land was up for sale and this organization bought it the legal way then they have the right to do what they want with said land (keeping in tune with local building codes and whatnot). If you got a problem with it, dont come to New York City.
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    Re: Palin sparks Twitter fight on mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    I havent payed much attention to this since I really dont a flying **** but in my observations much of the opposition are people who dont live/arent even from NYC let along New York state. Its quite funny listening to carpetbaggers preach what we should and should not do. If the land was up for sale and this organization bought it the legal way then they have the right to do what they want with said land (keeping in tune with local building codes and whatnot). If you got a problem with it, dont come to New York City.
    I'd be so ****ing happy if Sarah Palin restricted her activities to Alaska. You betcha I would.

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    Re: Palin sparks Twitter fight on mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I'd be so ****ing happy if Sarah Palin restricted her activities to Alaska. You betcha I would.
    she should refudiate herself.

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    Re: Palin sparks Twitter fight on mosque

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    That makes sense. It's a super sekret plot to erect a statue to a big victory over their own nation, and let kids go swimming and pray. Thanks for applying such strenuous logic to this.
    Thanks for a bad attempt to discredit something you obviously disagree with by not addressing the concerns, history or the sensitivity and emotion this issue obviously generates. Alinsky and apologists would be proud.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Palin sparks Twitter fight on mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    What's this nonsense about Islam having a "victory"? Last time I checked it wasn't Islam that attacked us. It was Al-Qaeda, and too assume everyone who is muslim is a terrorist is just plain wrong.
    I'm not claiming Islam attacked us nor am I claiming all muslims are terrorists - I'm claiming Islam historically puts up monuments over victory's. Does Islam see 9/11 as a victory over the United States? I don't know - I would hope not. I would hope they see it as mass murder. Does Al Qaeda see 9/11 as a victory off the United States? Yes I believe they do. Would Al Qaeda like to see a Mosque go up near the WTC site? Do we know everything about this Imam and his motivations for putting a Mosque so close to the WTC site? We only know what we read or hear. Could this mosque be construed as a monument of victory? Yes it can -- whether you see it that way or not does not mean it's not legitimate to others who may see it that way.

    Bottom line is - NY is a pretty big place... lots of places to put a monument or a mosque. Why does it have to be there?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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