Thread: Palin sparks Twitter fight on mosque

Originally Posted by apdst

The imam building the mosque is a jihadist. Do jihadists represent AQ? Yes??

Ground Zero mosque imam tied to group behind Gaza jihad flotilla - Jihad Watch

A tenuous link provided by a tenuous source. It goes Imam -> Free Gaza -> Freedom Flotilla <- IHH... and that's if you take Glenn Beck's chalkboard and the NY Post at face value...

If I give money to the Red Cross and they give some of it to a group who also gets money from blood diamond miners, did I also support blood diamond miners?

Originally Posted by Deuce

A tenuous link provided by a tenuous source. It goes Imam -> Free Gaza -> Freedom Flotilla <- IHH... and that's if you take Glenn Beck's chalkboard and the NY Post at face value...

If I give money to the Red Cross and they give some of it to a group who also gets money from blood diamond miners, did I also support blood diamond miners?

Is the Red Cross a jihadist group? If so, they need to eb executed in the street like dogs.

Originally Posted by apdst

Is the Red Cross a jihadist group? If so, they need to eb executed in the street like dogs.

Yeah, screw that Constitution thing.

Originally Posted by apdst

Is the Red Cross a jihadist group? If so, they need to eb executed in the street like dogs.

PGPO and the Free Gaza Movement aren't jihadist groups. Apparently you have no idea what a jihadist group is. Here's a hint: Al Qaida is one.

Originally Posted by Sarah Palin

Peace-seeking Muslims, pls understand, Ground Zero mosque is UNNECESSARY provocation; it stabs hearts.

mygoodness.. women are so emotional

Originally Posted by Degreez

He's part of a group (Perdana Global Peace Organization) that gave some money to another group (Free Gaza Movement). That group sponsored the IHH flotilla.

That somehow makes him a jihadist.

Care to show your reasoning? And it may help if you didn't use a website like JihadWatch

I think I am listed on JihadWatch...

Originally Posted by Redress

I think I am listed on JihadWatch...

Only as most snuggleicious

Twitter fight? Really.

Let's just have a Pillow fight on the issue and call it a day.

Originally Posted by Deuce

It's only a provocation if you think Muslims and the 9/11 terrorists are actually part of the same group.
If that is the case, you should consider whether or not this applies to the Ku Klux Klan/Army of God and Christians.

I do not think Muslims & the 911 Terrorists are necessarily part of the same group.

I am more convinced that the Ku Klux Klan is part and parcel of the American Christian Church.

Originally Posted by Degreez

PGPO and the Free Gaza Movement aren't jihadist groups. Apparently you have no idea what a jihadist group is. Here's a hint: Al Qaida is one.

As usual Degreez you are dead wrong and what a shocker you support these groups:

The Israeli government, after a short period of debate, decided that it will intercept the convoy as it has done with other ships heading for Gaza — enforcing the blockade established in 2007 in coordination with the Egyptians after the ascent of Hamas to power. The IDF announced that the ships will be stopped by the Israeli navy, boarded, and then escorted to Ashdod, where the cargo will be unloaded and then transferred to Gaza.

Following that announcement, the father of the kidnapped soldier made his offer.

He said he would give the convoy his stamp of approval and use his considerable moral leverage to pressure Israel to allow the convoy to continue to Gaza — if the organizers of the cruise agreed to make contact with his son:

Attorney Nick Kaufman, who approached the Free Gaza Movement on behalf of the kidnapped soldier’s family, told Ynet that he offered the flotilla’s organizers the family’s full support, provided that “in addition to their demand that Israel lift its blockade they will urge Hamas to allow the soldier to receive letters and food packages from his family and allow international organizations to visit him.”

According to Kaufman, he was referred to the movement’s legal counsel, who rejected the offer. “I thought this movement supports human rights, as it claims, but according to the reaction it seems that it is only interested in provocation and expressing support for a terror group that doesn’t really care about human rights,” said the attorney.

Indeed — depressingly, but unsurprisingly — the humanitarian commitment of those aboard the “Freedom Flotilla” does not extend to Gilad Shalit. It doesn’t even sound like they spent much time debating the offer. Almost immediately after the Israeli media announced that it had been extended, it was refused, in keeping with their support of a regime that has held Shalit for four years under conditions that violate international law.

Pajamas Media » The ‘Free Gaza Movement’ Convoy: Humanitarians or Camera-Seekers?

According to your website, you describe yourselves as a "human rights movement."

You proclaim: "We respect the human rights of everyone, regardless of race, tribe, religion, ethnicity, nationality, citizenship or language."

And yet nowhere is there evidence of your respect for the human rights of Israelis, who've been the targets of massive human rights violations by Hamas and other terror groups operating freely in Gaza.

Are human rights indivisible, or only permitted for the groups you preselect?

Actually, you answer that question at a deeper level when you assert that: "We recognize the right of all Palestinian refugees and exiles and their heirs to return to their homes in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories.... This is an individual and not a collective right, and cannot be negotiated except by the individual."

In other words, not only do Israelis, who want nothing more than to live free of missile and mortar attacks from Gaza, have no such right, but the country in which they live has no right to exist. That's precisely what your formula means.

So much for being a "human rights movement" and respecting "the human rights of everyone."

Clearly, if it's not about pointing the finger at Israel -- or, should I say, giving Israel the finger -- then you're simply not interested.

When Egypt occupied Gaza until 1967 and imposed draconian military rule, where were you to protest and organize flotillas and "humanitarian convoys"?

When in 2005 Israel left Gaza to determine its own destiny -- for the first time in its history, I might add -- where were you to encourage investment and job creation?

When Hamas violently ousted the Palestinian Authority from Gaza in 2007, where were you to express support for the PA?

When Hamas opted to follow a dead-end strategy to turn Gaza into a pariah state and terrorist redoubt, where were you to press for a truly "free Gaza"?

When Christians were attacked in Gaza by jihadists, where were you to demonstrate solidarity with the victims?

When Egypt sealed its border with Gaza and, later, announced the construction of a steel wall along the frontier, where were you?

And when officials today live lavishly in Gaza and humanitarian supplies are siphoned off to privileged groups and gangs, where are you?

No, it's only about Israel. Nothing else matters. Your agenda is obvious. Your motives are transparent. And surrounding yourselves with a few convenient Jews doesn't make you any more credible.

David Harris: To the Free Gaza Movement

As usual you are defending a terrorist supporting organization who doesn't have the slightest interest in peace or helping the people of Gaza. They want to hurt Israel politically as much as possible while supporting Hamas.