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    Blacks in California Are Divided Over Proposition 19

    “I was a pastor on crack cocaine, sir,” said Mr. Allen, who says he has been sober for 11 years and now identifies himself as the bishop of the International Faith Based Coalition here. “Drugs have no religious preference.”
    And while crack cocaine laid him low, Mr. Allen says his first drug of choice was marijuana. So it is that Mr. Allen and a cadre of other black pastors, priests and other religious leaders have bonded together in recent weeks to fight what they see as a potentially devastating blow to their communities: Proposition 19, the California ballot measure that would tax and regulate marijuana.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/us...nted=2&_r=1&hp

    Yeah I don't understand why someone's past history as a drug addict can serve as a badge of expertise for anything, including drugs. I am less inclined to listen to a former drug addict about drugs then I am just about anyone.
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    Re: Blacks in California Are Divided Over Proposition 19

    It's sad to say, but clergy has pretty much lost credibility in the eyes of the masses, (zealots notwithstanding.)

    How come it's always the snake-oil saleman preachers that make it to the top of the airwaves only to be eventually exposed for what they are and religion, as a whole, takes a shot to the gut.

    The faithful, obedient, silent workers of Christ barely go mentioned.

    I'm not even religious. But I can see the injustice of it all.

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    Re: Blacks in California Are Divided Over Proposition 19

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dane View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/us...nted=2&_r=1&hp

    Yeah I don't understand why someone's past history as a drug addict can serve as a badge of expertise for anything, including drugs. I am less inclined to listen to a former drug addict about drugs then I am just about anyone.
    He is not claiming that I see to be an expert, but explaining why he thinks it is a bad idea based on his experiences. This is nothing more than what every one does, make judgments based on what they have experienced.
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    Re: Blacks in California Are Divided Over Proposition 19

    how would it be a devastating blow to their communities??

    I drank milk first then became an Alcoholic, I suppose that means milk is a gateway substance also.

    (sarcasms, never was an Alcoholic lol)

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    Re: Blacks in California Are Divided Over Proposition 19

    It is no surprise that our generations of recent past, having been conditioned and programmed during the "Reefer Madness" era, made all of society's "psychotic marijuana smokers go stand in the coner with all the herion junkies and skidrow wino's." They could not distinguish between the two.

    I always heard, "If you want to be a doctor, associate with Doctor's. If you want to be a lawyer, associate with Lawyers. If you want to be a pothead, go hang out with the junkies."

    But, now that modern day society has become more educated and are not as gullable as our parents might have been regarding marijuana, (coupled with the fact that I have partaken with many a doctors and lawyers in the essence of the herb,) I think it's safe to say that the archaic opinion of marijuana is pretty much buried and dead. The marijuana smoker no longer has to keep company with the junkie. Therefore, lessening the chance of him/her becoming a product of his/her junkie environment.

    I have never even seen herion in my whole life, much less try it. I hate crackheads and junkies. But I do love a good bud of hydro.
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    Re: Blacks in California Are Divided Over Proposition 19

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    how would it be a devastating blow to their communities??

    I drank milk first then became an Alcoholic, I suppose that means milk is a gateway substance also.

    (sarcasms, never was an Alcoholic lol)
    Yeah, it's not as if the black community has a drug problem. Legalizing dope would be just what the doctor ordered.
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    Re: Blacks in California Are Divided Over Proposition 19

    I'm a little frustrated the NY times didn't decide to simply write a peace on proposition 19, but instead they chose to write a peace about how it would affect blacks. Not to say that blacks wouldn't be substantially affected by the law.
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    Re: Blacks in California Are Divided Over Proposition 19

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dane View Post
    I'm a little frustrated the NY times didn't decide to simply write a peace on proposition 19, but instead they chose to write a peace about how it would affect blacks. Not to say that blacks wouldn't be substantially affected by the law.
    The media doesn't have a liberal bias, it has a financial one. Controversy sells, so you make more money selling the controversy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, it's not as if the black community has a drug problem. Legalizing dope would be just what the doctor ordered.
    Your right, it is just what the doctor ordered, Legalize weed and take out a massive amount of the organized drug trade. Then kids wouldn't be raised slinging dope at such a young age and rather be focused on more important things. Really legalize all drugs and watch those neighborhoods get better, I mean if they are all legalized then these kids won't need to be brought up learning how to sell.

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    Re: Blacks in California Are Divided Over Proposition 19

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    It's sad to say, but clergy has pretty much lost credibility in the eyes of the masses, (zealots notwithstanding.)

    How come it's always the snake-oil saleman preachers that make it to the top of the airwaves only to be eventually exposed for what they are and religion, as a whole, takes a shot to the gut.

    The faithful, obedient, silent workers of Christ barely go mentioned.

    I'm not even religious. But I can see the injustice of it all.
    Because a lot of people are either too blind, too dumb to see the fact the so called preacher is nothing more than a snake-oil salesmen or a combination of both. The reason the faithful, obedient silent workers of Christ go unnoticed is because most likely they read Mathew chapter 6:1-8 and abide by it.
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