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    Re: Government says leak detected 'a distance from' oil well

    ScienceDaily (Jan. 27, 2000) — Twice an Exxon Valdez spill worth of oil seeps into the Gulf of Mexico every year, according to a new study that will be presented January 27 at the Ocean Sciences Meeting in San Antonio, Texas.
    Scientists Find That Tons Of Oil Seep Into The Gulf Of Mexico Each Year

    The oil that was detected could be natural, and the government needs to prove it isn't before they blame BP for it..... or don't we live in a country that prizes due process.
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    Re: Government says leak detected 'a distance from' oil well

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Yes because the government truely cares about a few billion dollars. When its budget is in the multitrillion dollar range, it truely cares about a few billion dollars

    While BP, a profit making enterprise whose future could be at stake, is not concerned about a fine that could be $3 billion or a $12 billion depending on how much oil was released
    The Obama administration needs it to be a continuing crisis to further the cap and trade agenda.

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    Re: Government says leak detected 'a distance from' oil well

    I'm pretty sure it's the unexpected pressure readings that are worrying the White House, and I could care less if it might be a "natural" leak..If it's near by we need to assume the worst.

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    Re: Government says leak detected 'a distance from' oil well

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Yes, lets look at it ONLY one way.

    Lets not say its equally plausible that the Government doesn't want to lose out on fine money and the publicity of continuing to demonize BP and thus are pushing for a solution that keeps the oil flowing rather than stops it.

    Nope, it must ONLY be BP that has utlerior motives and the government must have a pure and golden heart, that must be the only possible way this could be invisioned.
    Yes yes, the government is demonizing BP...











    I assure everyone, that if the government hadn't come into this situation, then everything would have been fine. I'm sure everything would have gotten fixed by now and the thousands of people who lost jobs as a result would all be back to work now. Yes people, it is the government's fault that BP, a company with 200 billion dollars in assets and hundreds of safety violations - is looking really bad. Without the government continuing to demonize BP, things would be fine or at the very least so-so.
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    Re: Government says leak detected 'a distance from' oil well

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    The Obama administration needs it to be a continuing crisis to further the cap and trade agenda.
    This crisis has been crappy for the administration. It has a much stronger motivation to end it with the elections coming up.

    Honestly I'm surprised they had the balls to propose uncapping it considering the potential backlash.

    I don't see why it's unplausible to assume that the government would want to keep this disaster from getting monumentally worse.

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    Re: Government says leak detected 'a distance from' oil well

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Lets not say its equally plausible that the Government doesn't want to lose out on fine money and the publicity of continuing to demonize BP and thus are pushing for a solution that keeps the oil flowing rather than stops it.
    Honestly I'd like to see how much mileage you think the administration is getting out of "demonizing" BP. My impression is that this spill has been yet another albatross for the admin that they'd like to see over sooner rather than later. Other than focusing blame for the oil spill on BP, I don't think there's really anything to be gained.

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    Re: Government says leak detected 'a distance from' oil well

    Quote Originally Posted by invisiblgorilla View Post
    This crisis has been crappy for the administration. It has a much stronger motivation to end it with the elections coming up.

    Honestly I'm surprised they had the balls to propose uncapping it considering the potential backlash.

    I don't see why it's unplausible to assume that the government would want to keep this disaster from getting monumentally worse.
    Obama doesn't care about the upcoming election. He is focused on completing his agendas while he still can. The cap and trade bill is coming back this month. The oil flowing will be good for that cause. He needs it jammed through before Nov. because he knows the Dems are going to lose. Never let a crisis go to waste.

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    Re: Government says leak detected 'a distance from' oil well

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Obama doesn't care about the upcoming election.
    Really? Since when did politicians stop caring about elections? Obama is not a lame duck and I find it hard to believe they've given up or at the very least wouldn't want to minimize any shift in the balance of power.


    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    The oil flowing will be good for that cause. He needs it jammed through before Nov. because he knows the Dems are going to lose. Never let a crisis go to waste.
    I just don't see how a few more days of oil would change anyone's mind on this. If anything, a more catastrophic leak (that the administration is obstensibly trying to avoid) would be more helpful to furthering their agenda by your logic.

    So if the government and BP swapped positions would you then assert that the administration was trying to make things worse by keeping the cap on? Your assumptions about their agenda is un-related to the facts of the matter as far as I can tell.
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    Re: Government says leak detected 'a distance from' oil well

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Maybe this is more serious than it looks? BP and the Obama administration are disagreeing on what should be done here, BP wants to leave the cap on but the White House wants them to take it off and outfit it so it can capture the oil in container ships and relieve pressure on the cap. Apparently there has been seepage and what looks to be the presence of Methane gases also leaking out.

    BP probably doesn't want to remove the cap because it could take up to a week to refit it which means lots of additional $$$$ in fines .
    Of course Obama wants to uncap the well...

    Obama wants more crisis bang for his buck. He can't allow BP, et. al. to look like the hero in this ordeal; all the while he looks like the government trough head that didn't do jack ****.
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    Re: Government says leak detected 'a distance from' oil well

    This wasn't taken on the American gulf coast. What are you trying to pull here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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