OK, would you be cool with the New Black Panther party patrolling the suburbs of Atlanta?
It depends what they are patrolling for... if they are patrolling for white men to kill, then they should be stopped as quickly as they violate the law. However, if they are acting as a posse because the police aren't stopping crime, and they are telling their fellow black men to act like men, or place them under citizens arrest, and drag them to the police station... really, all the power to them.
That said, I abhor the new black panther parties open statements to "kill some crackers. Kill some of their babies."
Now, that said, you go around calling for people to be killed, you will wind up getting arrested, or at least detained and asked questions, unless you've got FBI funding / handling / employment.
So what you're saying is we should wait for them to shoot people?
If they are patrolling the border and someone shoots at them, and they shoot back, that would be defined as justifiable manslaughter.
OK, so we take a group that adores Adolf Hitler, and is racist as hell, and we give them the right to do law enforcement? Not in MY country we don't.
It is within a citizens rights to place individuals under a 'citizens arrest'. There are certain guidelines to the process though, mainly that you must witness directly the crime being committed.
Ultimately, because it's border country, how about we just stop these guys by putting the army in control, take that line of tanks that crossed Iraq and have it drive lines through the border country in a moving patrol. I'd honestly rather see the army then citizens, regardless of their political affiliations, though I'd rather see citizens take on the job then leave the border as porous as it is.
If five guys in my neighborhood decide they want to patrol our neighborhood streets on Friday nights,and they're doing nothing wrong, why would they be arrested? It hasn't come to that yet, has it?
Exactly, they should not be arrested... and once they stop a crime or two from happening, then they might gain a reputation and some clout within the community. Community based solutions are among the best ideas in terms of solutions to the problems going on. Though, the border really is a millitary concern.
Look, I agree with the fact that they aren't doing anything illegal. Its just my opinion that hate groups shouldn't be patrolling the border. As far as taking legal action against them, I don't see anything that could be done unless they harm an immigrant, and I'm not saying they will, but given their groups message we are playing with fire here.
I do not agree that the news report was delivered to smeer other minute men.
I wouldn't go as far as minutemen explicitly, however, it's more like a general smear against ANYONE that wants to close the border.
Ready said he's planning patrols throughout the summer.
"If they don't want my people out there, then there's an easy way to send us home: Secure the border," he said. "We'll put our guns back on the shelf, and that'll be the end of that."
So, it might be some people that are legitimately pissed about the border issue and Obama's preference of Mexicans over Americans, and they decided to claim to be a neo-nazi group in order to get a stronger reaction... so, by NOT stopping these people, it's like Obama conceding that it's better to have neo-nazi citizens patrolling the border, then the constitutionally mandated millitary presence.
Afterall, there's only about 5 jobs that the federal government even has a legitimate job to do... one of those being to secure the border. Ya, it's tough.,.. but if we can invade several countries simultaneously, but we can't stop the people walking into our border, it creates a legitimate national security threat, and shows really how pathetic the country is... the Canada - US border is definately alot longer, but really... I'd bet it's tougher to get through the canadian side then the mexican side.