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    Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    I'm not in favor of any vigilante group patroling the border and doing the job of authorities. If they aren't the authorities or part of a state militia, then they lack training and have no business doing a job that isn't theirs, especially since they are doing it under the guise of hate. It's public property and they should shove off.
    You're from Canada! What the hell do you know?!?

    That being said, no, these clowns aren't breaking any law, unless they kill someone. That being said, these goofballs are ****ing trash, just like the black panthers and shouldn't be there, representing our country.
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    Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Yes, it's a reflection of anyone and everyone that supports border control and wants to send illegal immigrants back to where they came.
    No it isn't.Its like saying Code pink is a reflection of everyone who opposes the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, that PETA is a reflection of all vegetarians, that catholic priest who molest children are reflection of all catholic priests and so on.

    Now, they can all be labeled as nazi lovers.
    No they can't

    . or, if you say you support these nazis patrolling the border, then they can jump and say : "So you support national socialism, eh."
    I could care less what they do just as long as they are not breaking the law.If they want to play neighborhood watch on the border then who cares.
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    Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    No it isn't.Its like saying Code pink is a reflection of everyone who opposes the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, that PETA is a reflection of all vegetarians, that catholic priest who molest children are reflection of all catholic priests and so on.


    No they can't



    I could care less what they do just as long as they are not breaking the law.If they want to play neighborhood watch on the border then who cares.
    I agree... but what I'm saying is that in the media, this will be used as a way of subtle demonization by association. Now, because neo-nazi groups support closing the border, it can be implied that everyone that supports closing the border are neo-nazis. It's stupid, but propaganda like this is aimed at the lowest common denominator, when heard as a sound bite.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're from Canada! What the hell do you know?!?
    I'm also from Canada... and I know because this is part of the SPP plan to incorporate the US, Canada, and Mexico... and using the illegal aliens is a part of that. Except, the transition was supposed to happen before Mexico collapsed in on itself, and that's beginning to happen already. The documents themselves have been discovered by FOIA requests. They are available at www.judicialwatch.com So, YES, I'm not from the US, but if the US goes down Canada will follow soon after.

    That being said, no, these clowns aren't breaking any law, unless they kill someone. That being said, these goofballs are ****ing trash, just like the black panthers and shouldn't be there, representing our country.
    Yes, they are trash and should be shunned for their views, but allowed the right to express themselves... if they break the law, then they should be brought to justice, but if they are getting shot at, they would have the right to shoot back.

    It's stupid, and I somehow get a bad vibe that these people would combine something so abhorrant to the majority of the population with something that is popular... which gives me the impression that the event is somehow staged.

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    Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    I agree... but what I'm saying is that in the media, this will be used as a way of subtle demonization by association. Now, because neo-nazi groups support closing the border, it can be implied that everyone that supports closing the border are neo-nazis. It's stupid, but propaganda like this is aimed at the lowest common denominator, when heard as a sound bite.


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    The media already does this and they will be laughed at when they try or the media will get ignored. Look at the minutemen,even though they are a racially and ethnically diverse group they get labeled racist and these claims of racism are not even based on anything.
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    Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're from Canada! What the hell do you know?!?.
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    Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. BorderThis kind of baiting/flaming is completely uncalled for. There's nothing civil about it. If you think a person being from a foreign country is unfit to comment on something you can explain your reasoning. One off comments like this meant to do nothing but insult and belittle however is not condusive to civil debate.

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    Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The media already does this and they will be laughed at when they try or the media will get ignored. Look at the minutemen,even though they are a racially and ethnically diverse group they get labeled racist and these claims of racism are not even based on anything.

    I wish it were true that CBS would be laughed at for this type of reporting, but the reality is that they are not, not yet anyway. The question of this article should be two fold, one Neo Nazi's should not be supported in their intent to be at the border, that can't end well. Two, CBS should be ashamed for overtly biased, and smear type agenda reporting that makes them the laughing stock of journalism.


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    Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    I agree... but what I'm saying is that in the media, this will be used as a way of subtle demonization by association. Now, because neo-nazi groups support closing the border, it can be implied that everyone that supports closing the border are neo-nazis. It's stupid, but propaganda like this is aimed at the lowest common denominator, when heard as a sound bite.
    I actually agree with this take on it. The Neo-Nazis are doing this cause far more harm than good. It allows the media and advocacy groups to paint supporters of this law as racists and nazis. In reality, the law is NOT unconstitutional (other states have similar laws). Southern Poverty Law Center is already beating the drum and calling anyone who supports this law a racist. Think about it...it's a great way to silence dissent.

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    Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I actually agree with this take on it. The Neo-Nazis are doing this cause far more harm than good. It allows the media and advocacy groups to paint supporters of this law as racists and nazis. In reality, the law is NOT unconstitutional (other states have similar laws). Southern Poverty Law Center is already beating the drum and calling anyone who supports this law a racist. Think about it...it's a great way to silence dissent.

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    Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It is an attempt to smear others (MinuteMen etc.), as similar to these guys, which these particular people haven't done anything wrong in the first place.
    It is not an attempt to smear, it is an attempt to tell you Neo Nazi's have taken on duties to patrol. I am with Danahera on this issue. If the black panthers or a chicano gang were doing the same thing, the Right would be up in Arms. I don't disagree with any group performing block watches, e.g. minute men have served a good duty by both reporting illegal activity and by calling rescue agencies for those who are exposed to the desert and about to die, but I am opposed to non law enforcement, performing law enforcement.
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    Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    It is not an attempt to smear, it is an attempt to tell you Neo Nazi's have taken on duties to patrol. I am with Danahera on this issue. If the black panthers or a chicano gang were doing the same thing, the Right would be up in Arms. I don't disagree with any group performing block watches, e.g. minute men have served a good duty by both reporting illegal activity and by calling rescue agencies for those who are exposed to the desert and about to die, but I am opposed to non law enforcement, performing law enforcement.
    Mobile neighborhood watch frequently relies on local citizens to see and report criminal behavior to law enforcement. I would say that there isn't a lot of difference, in practice, aside from the group's racial bias.

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