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    Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    When I first saw the thread title I either thought another stupid lib trying to smear the minutemen or that is some stupid lib who wrote the article that is trying to smear the minutemen. But then I saw the thread starter and a little bit of the article and realized they are talking about people who call themselves nazis.
    Nope, I wouldn't smear minutemen. However, with Nazis, I call it like it is. These guys give the militias a bad name.
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    Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    When I first saw the thread title I either thought another stupid lib trying to smear the minutemen or that is some stupid lib who wrote the article that is trying to smear the minutemen. But then I saw the thread starter and a little bit of the article and realized they are talking about people who call themselves nazis.
    It is an attempt to smear others (MinuteMen etc.), as similar to these guys, which these particular people haven't done anything wrong in the first place.
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    Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    This part of my link says it all. What I want to know is if the Arizona government is going to put a stop to this group, or if it is going to turn a blind eye to a swastika wearing group that would, in a heartbeat, fire up the ovens for the Jews again, if given half a chance. Whether or not you believe that Arizona is doing the right thing with its new laws, you certainly don't want scum like these patrolling the border. This is America, dammit!! Send these slimeballs back to Stormfront, where they belong.

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    So what legal grounds/enforcements methods are you proposing? Presumably they are legal as is. I hate the idea of them being out there, but short of re-tooling gun laws, I'm not sure what would change the situation.

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    Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border

    I'm actually worried for the Neo Nazi's. They're not very intelligent to start with and now they're wandering the deserts looking for illegal immigrants when more likely they'll run into smugglers and get shot from a mile away.

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    Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border

    If the local LEO can't accomplish the goal of protecting the local citizenry, and the State/Fed won't do anything, what do you do? There is obviously a clear and present threat to the local populace.

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    Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dane View Post
    I'm actually worried for the Neo Nazi's. They're not very intelligent to start with and now they're wandering the deserts looking for illegal immigrants when more likely they'll run into smugglers and get shot from a mile away.
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    Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It is an attempt to smear others (MinuteMen etc.), as similar to these guys, which these particular people haven't done anything wrong in the first place.
    I know these people haven't done anything illegal.Some people do not care where help comes from and others do care where that help comes from seeing how it give the impression that you are giving credence to groups you may be opposed to if you accept their aid.
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    Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    This part of my link says it all. What I want to know is if the Arizona government is going to put a stop to this group, or if it is going to turn a blind eye to a swastika wearing group that would, in a heartbeat, fire up the ovens for the Jews again, if given half a chance. Whether or not you believe that Arizona is doing the right thing with its new laws, you certainly don't want scum like these patrolling the border. This is America, dammit!! Send these slimeballs back to Stormfront, where they belong.

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    I'm going to play the Devil's advocate here and say that the government can't do anything. These cats are just excercising their right to free expression. I mean, that's the excuse that was used to let the Philly Panthers walk, right?
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    Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dane View Post
    I'm actually worried for the Neo Nazi's. They're not very intelligent to start with and now they're wandering the deserts looking for illegal immigrants when more likely they'll run into smugglers and get shot from a mile away.
    And on the bright side, they'll all just kill each other.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm going to play the Devil's advocate here and say that the government can't do anything.
    Well seeing as how the government hasn't done anything, I'd say you're probably right on this count.
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    These cats are just excercising their right to free expression.
    More like their right to bear arms. I don't think they're making a political statment.
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    I mean, that's the excuse that was used to let the Philly Panthers walk, right?
    AFAIK the issues with the Philly Panthers have more to do with allegations against the justice department and the enforcement of voting rights laws. I don't see the connect here. If anyone is excusing what the Panthers were accused of doing, I'm not sure what it is.

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