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    AIDS conference chief lashes out at world leaders

    VIENNA (AP) - The head of an international AIDS conference says world leaders lack the political will to ensure that everyone infected with the disease gets treatment.

    Julio Montaner—the president of the International AIDS Society and chairman of the AIDS 2010 conference—says the G-8 group of rich nations has failed to deliver on a pledge to guarantee so-called universal access.

    Montaner also accused governments from some Eastern European states of indifference to the dire situations in their countries and said their absence at the Vienna meeting was "irresponsible to the point of criminal negligence."

    He spoke Sunday shortly before the opening ceremony of the weeklong conference that is expected to draw thousands of experts, advocates and policymakers.
    AIDS conference chief lashes out at world leaders

    OH BOO ****ING HOO. Countries are getting sick of spending more and more money to pay for the treatment of people that got, what in 95%+ of cases was an entirely avoidable disease!

    Welcome to reality asshat. He's lucky I ain't in charge, there'd be ZERO (okay almost zero, maybe a small program dedicated to helping those that are at no fault for becoming infected) spent on treatment, and only educational materials aimed at prevention. You know the risks, you get it, too ****ing bad.

    The world can't keep paying for the irresponsible, irrational, immature and selfish behavior of people.

    Besides, this has far less to do with "helping people" as Julio Montaner claims, and more to do with the free flow of cash into "Aid" organizations.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    In reality, not everyone who gets aids contracts it because they willingly took a sexual risk. Do you believe in death panels? Because essentially you are saying that we shouldn't treat people because they willingly accepted aids. Regardless, should the G-8 nations not live up to their promises regarding aids treatments? Sure it's expensive, but what is money when compared to human life? The poorest in wealthy countries are also the fattest in their countries (especially in America). Africa is where the aids epidemic is the most widespread and devastating. Those nations are poor, and many are run by dictators and corrupt governments. We should be making every effort to help these people and to keep our word and provide universal aids treatments. So essentially, poor Africans deserve to die because they chose to contract aids? Many contract aids via rape. In a class I took last semester we looked at African cultures, and in many of them the witch doctors tell them the cure for aids is to have sex with a virgin. So people should be deemed as "unworthy" for treatment because they all has risky sex with aids infected individuals? So then you do support death panels?
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    Re: AIDS conference chief lashes out at world leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    In reality, not everyone who gets aids contracts it because they willingly took a sexual risk. Do you believe in death panels? Because essentially you are saying that we shouldn't treat people because they willingly accepted aids. Regardless, should the G-8 nations not live up to their promises regarding aids treatments? Sure it's expensive, but what is money when compared to human life? The poorest in wealthy countries are also the fattest in their countries (especially in America). Africa is where the aids epidemic is the most widespread and devastating. Those nations are poor, and many are run by dictators and corrupt governments. We should be making every effort to help these people and to keep our word and provide universal aids treatments. So essentially, poor Africans deserve to die because they chose to contract aids? Many contract aids via rape. In a class I took last semester we looked at African cultures, and in many of them the witch doctors tell them the cure for aids is to have sex with a virgin. So people should be deemed as "unworthy" for treatment because they all has risky sex with aids infected individuals? So then you do support death panels?
    Couple things here.
    In some places of Africa (and I'm assuming around the world) the AIDS medications have been used as a smoked recreational drug.
    People will sell it or use it directly.

    It's hard to treat such a disease without having people willing to go the whole 9 yards at preventing the spread.

    I don't have an answer to the problem, sometimes I think a quarantine may be in order, other times I think we should take a hands off a approach and let the disease get rid of the carriers.
    I honestly don't know.
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    Re: AIDS conference chief lashes out at world leaders

    If you want to be sexually promiscuous and screw like a rabbit, fine. Don't do it in front of me and don't expect me to pay for your abortion, pregnancy, STD treatment or AIDS therapy, either personally or through my taxes.

    I also wouldn't give them one red cent.

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    It always makes me laugh when conservatives like to tote the religious line ALL ****ING DAY but don't understand give the slightest effort to undersatnd its message.

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    Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least among you, you did not do for me.'

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    Re: AIDS conference chief lashes out at world leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dane View Post
    It always makes me laugh when conservatives like to tote the religious line ALL ****ING DAY but don't understand give the slightest effort to undersatnd its message.
    Sorry but vague religious quotes don't solve real world problems in every instance.
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    Re: AIDS conference chief lashes out at world leaders

    No they don't, but giving money to fund aids relief does. It's also true that there's no ****ing way Jesus would have liked conservative's lack of compassion and social welfare.
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    Re: AIDS conference chief lashes out at world leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dane View Post
    No they don't, but giving money to fund aids relief does.
    Apparently it hasn't otherwise, the incidence of HIV/AIDS would be going down in Africa.
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    Re: AIDS conference chief lashes out at world leaders

    Actually infection rates are decreasing and slowing down.

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    Re: AIDS conference chief lashes out at world leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dane View Post
    Actually infection rates are decreasing and slowing down.
    The point is that unless you change the behavior of the inhabitants, you're not going to fix the problem.

    Giving away food and medication only keeps those people alive but doesn't necessarily keep them from spreading the disease.
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