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    Re: AIDS conference chief lashes out at world leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dane View Post
    No they don't, but giving money to fund aids relief does. It's also true that there's no ****ing way Jesus would have liked conservative's lack of compassion and social welfare.
    Nothing is stopping people from giving to CHARITIES, which is the Christian way of caring. Gov't funded slush funds.... no, that is just pure failure.
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    Re: AIDS conference chief lashes out at world leaders

    The chief needs to learn a lesson called personal responsibility.

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    Re: AIDS conference chief lashes out at world leaders

    The way I see it, the more hosts that HIV is allowed to infect, the greater odds it has of mutating into a virus with other methods of transmission. (and HIV has a very high mutation rate which contributes to the difficulty in finding a cure for it) It's bad enough as an STD, if it ever became transmissible through skin contact or a sneeze we'd have a potential global disaster. It is in our own best interests to fight this disease on every front.

    The free market and charity are not going to fix a global pandemic.
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    Re: AIDS conference chief lashes out at world leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You know the risks, you get it, too ****ing bad.

    The world can't keep paying for the irresponsible, irrational, immature and selfish behavior of people.

    Besides, this has far less to do with "helping people" as Julio Montaner claims, and more to do with the free flow of cash into "Aid" organizations.
    And someone doesn't see why we should help. Even when it's in our own interest for security.

    Basic development lesson.

    AIDs destroys the basic fabric of society by killing off the working age group. That reduces economic activity and reduces the wealth of countries on an average income basis. With less money, less schooling is available to students. With no parents to take care of children and little schooling, children are sent into the work force and often easy prey to radicals. Furthermore, with many AIDs infected countries have already massive debt servicing requirements, less and less money is reinvested into the economy. This is a vicious cycle that guts the economy of a country and ensures that it never gets out of poverty.

    Generally rich countries with good education systems don't have sizable terrorist groups coming from them. There is a reason the US is increasing aid to parts of Africa. We do not want another front in our war on terrorism.
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    Re: AIDS conference chief lashes out at world leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Nothing is stopping people from giving to CHARITIES, which is the Christian way of caring. Gov't funded slush funds.... no, that is just pure failure.
    Except that charities cannot negotation reduced or at cost retrovirus deals.
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    Re: AIDS conference chief lashes out at world leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Except that charities cannot negotation reduced or at cost retrovirus deals.
    There's nothing stopping a charity and a drug company for doing a cost reduction on the drugs. It's all done via contracts.

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    Re: AIDS conference chief lashes out at world leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Except that charities cannot negotation reduced or at cost retrovirus deals.
    That's ridiculous, of course they can.
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    Re: AIDS conference chief lashes out at world leaders

    so after hurricane katrina, some of you would not have cared if only private charities had helped, or if no other countries offered assistance for the oil spill, and if the government did nothing during the pig flu outbreak, no money should have been given by governments after the asian tsunami,as private charities should be able to deal with it?

    the aids pandemic in africa is so much bigger than those 4 events.
    AIDS is now a pandemic. In 2007, it was estimated that 33.2 million people lived with the disease worldwide, and that AIDS killed an estimated 2.1 million people, including 330,000 children. Over three-quarters of these deaths occurred in sub-Saharan Africa.
    AIDS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    and you think the red cross can just make that go away if you give a few dollars a month?
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    Re: AIDS conference chief lashes out at world leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    so after hurricane katrina, some of you would not have cared if only private charities had helped, or if no other countries offered assistance for the oil spill, and if the government did nothing during the pig flu outbreak, no money should have been given by governments after the asian tsunami,as private charities should be able to deal with it?

    the aids pandemic in africa is so much bigger than those 4 events.

    AIDS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    and you think the red cross can just make that go away if you give a few dollars a month?
    I'll care about Africans when poverty and every social ill in the US is fixed first.

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    Re: AIDS conference chief lashes out at world leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    I'll care about Africans when poverty and every social ill in the US is fixed first.
    and you expect to get that done through private charity?
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