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    Re: Immigrant deaths in Arizona desert soaring in July

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No. You believe in using people's deaths for political expedience. You don't give a **** about illegal immigrants anymore than I honestly care about some missing kid in nowhere'sville USA. Your 24 style scenarios don't exist in real life. Get over it. The best part about it is you make a thread on these people under such false pretenses. Do you make a thread on all the fishermen who die every year? What about the dozens of people who die in California from street violence? No, this is just a thread you made to push an agenda. You don't really care about 'saving lives'. Don't insult your own intelligence.

    What do people fishing dying every year matter? Is there some failed Federal enforcement of law that is causing them to die? IS there some failed enforcement of law creating conditions where innocent people are dying on the streets??? Your analogies fall far short of mattering, well to anyone other then yourself.

    Who said anything about "24 Scenario's"? I support breaking the ****ing kneecaps fo terrorist if there is a probability they have information that will save the lives of my Fellow Americans. Cause ya know what? A Terrorist ain't got no ****ing rights, he sure as **** wouldn't care about your rights if he had you in his "custody". Ever watch the Daniel Pearl video? You should.

    I care about people dying in the desert because of failed Gov't policies, and this circle jerk punting of the issue instead of sealing the borders, and making life so hard on illegals and those that hire them that it becomes untenable to be here... we do nothing and people die. Or are treated as low-wage serfs doing **** work for pennies.

    You owe me an apology sir.
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    Re: Immigrant deaths in Arizona desert soaring in July

    We should set up some water stations or something so they can survive the crossing.

    Anyone who takes this suggestion seriously needs another beer.
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    Re: Immigrant deaths in Arizona desert soaring in July

    I believe that the government should employ FedEx and UPS to deliver packages to all of the illegals. They seem to have no troubles finding them...

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    Re: Immigrant deaths in Arizona desert soaring in July

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    We should set up some water stations or something so they can survive the crossing.

    Anyone who takes this suggestion seriously needs another beer.
    No, that merely encourages them, and makes those putting the water out liable if the water is gone and someone dies of thirst.
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    Re: Immigrant deaths in Arizona desert soaring in July

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    I believe that the government should employ FedEx and UPS to deliver packages to all of the illegals. They seem to have no troubles finding them...
    Student loan people. Seriously, those ****ers could have found Bin Laden in a week.
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    Re: Immigrant deaths in Arizona desert soaring in July

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Student loan people. Seriously, those ****ers could have found Bin Laden in a week.
    Yeah those people too.

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    Re: Immigrant deaths in Arizona desert soaring in July

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    What do people fishing dying every year matter? Is there some failed Federal enforcement of law that is causing them to die? IS there some failed enforcement of law creating conditions where innocent people are dying on the streets??? Your analogies fall far short of mattering, well to anyone other then yourself.
    More proof that this 'saving lives' argument is nothing more than a farce and your OP was full of **** to begin with. You created an OP appealing to the notion that you somehow care about the people risking their lives to cross the border when in reality all you care about is getting them out of the country. The fact that these people are escaping horrible condition in a horrible country where they're more likely to die and the risk of crossing the border to them is minimal compared to the risk of living in day to die violence they're coming from.

    Who said anything about "24 Scenario's"? I support breaking the ****ing kneecaps fo terrorist if there is a probability they have information that will save the lives of my Fellow Americans. Cause ya know what? A Terrorist ain't got no ****ing rights, he sure as **** wouldn't care about your rights if he had you in his "custody". Ever watch the Daniel Pearl video? You should.
    More false appeals to emotion. What? You're going to tell us some sob story about being fondled by terrorists next? Learn to debate. Your OP was full of ****. End of story.

    I care about people dying in the desert because of failed Gov't policies, and this circle jerk punting of the issue instead of sealing the borders, and making life so har don illegals and those that hire that it becomes untenable to be here... we do nothing and people die. Or are treated as low-wage serfs doing **** work for pennies.
    And this is where your dihonest shines through. Have YOU yourself made the argument that these people are bad for OUR economy because they're sending money back to Mexico? Have you yourself made the argument that these people are bad for OUR economy because their jobs could be taken up by Americans? Obviously if they have JOBS and are sending money back to their families, they're not making pennies. Their effect on our economy would be minimal? See how dihonest you are now?

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    Re: Immigrant deaths in Arizona desert soaring in July

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    More proof that this 'saving lives' argument is nothing more than a farce and your OP was full of **** to begin with. You created an OP appealing to the notion that you somehow care about the people risking their lives to cross the border when in reality all you care about is getting them out of the country. The fact that these people are escaping horrible condition in a horrible country where they're more likely to die and the risk of crossing the border to them is minimal compared to the risk of living in day to die violence they're coming from.



    More false appeals to emotion. What? You're going to tell us some sob story about being fondled by terrorists next? Learn to debate. Your OP was full of ****. End of story.



    And this is where your dihonest shines through. Have YOU yourself made the argument that these people are bad for OUR economy because they're sending money back to Mexico? Have you yourself made the argument that these people are bad for OUR economy because their jobs could be taken up by Americans? Obviously if they have JOBS and are sending money back to their families, they're not making pennies. Their effect on our economy would be minimal? See how dihonest you are now?



    I don't apologize to dishonest people.
    Ahh the intolerant liberal all angry cause I made an argument that he cannot refute without personally attacking my character. It's been fun watching you get all spun up Hautey, but honestly, I could give a rats ass less what you think.

    The problem you have is, and I know I touched a raw nerve here, is that if people start seeing border enforcement as a LIFE SAVING measure, that might generate support for such.. and you cannot have that. Way to show how everything you do, think or care about is about politics. I'm looking at ways of saving lives, you worry about the political angle.
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    Re: Immigrant deaths in Arizona desert soaring in July

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    My Way News - Immigrant deaths in Arizona desert soaring in July

    More reason to make immigration reform happen. More reason to make it harder to be here illegally, to work here... to save their lives.

    Considering Obama's version of "reform" is amnesty or some form of it I do not want reform anytime soon. I simply do not trust him to adequately secure the border and crack down on scum who hire illegals.

    As for for individuals dying while trespassing into the US I can honestly say that I do not feel sorry for people dying while in the commission of a crime. Would you care if a trespasser was shot? Would you care that someone trying break into your home was shot?
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    Re: Immigrant deaths in Arizona desert soaring in July

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Considering Obama's version of "reform" is amnesty or some form of it I do not want reform anytime soon. I simply do not trust him to adequately secure the border and crack down on scum who hire illegals.

    As for for individuals dying while trespassing into the US I can honestly say that I do not feel sorry for people dying while in the commission of a crime. Would you care if a trespasser was shot? Would you care that someone trying break into your home was shot?
    You do have a valid point, these ARE criminals, who through their own failure to abide by the law died in the course of commiting a crime... way to go James... bastard, bringing LAW into this.

    HOWEVER, I'm taking the stance that we could prevent these, okay, criminals from dying by proper border enforcement. Besides, think of the savings to the coroners office!
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