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    Re: Europe Warns Obama: This Relationship Is Not Working

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You can find three in the OP.
    Ah yes. The OP. While you're blaming "the GOP" the Obama administration is blaming Europe:

    The U.S. defended itself forcefully against claims that it had neglected Europe.

    "Expectations were probably so high that they could not have been met when you looked at the European response to the election," a senior official in the Administration said.

    The view from Washington is that communication with Europe on a range of crucial issues is difficult because the EU still lacks "a clear foreign policy apparatus."

    So... are you not willing to support your earlier claim? Can you provide details on how the GOP thwarted Obama's efforts on three of the issues in the OP?

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    Re: Europe Warns Obama: This Relationship Is Not Working

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Ah yes. The OP. While you're blaming "the GOP" the Obama administration is blaming Europe:




    So... are you not willing to support your earlier claim? Can you provide details on how the GOP thwarted Obama's efforts on three of the issues in the OP?
    Cap and Trade - GOP goes the "OMG NOT OUR MONEY" route and we end up with watered down semblence of pollution control. If anything passes at all, they're talking about dropping the "cap" part entirely.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Europe Warns Obama: This Relationship Is Not Working

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Cap and Trade - GOP goes the "OMG NOT OUR MONEY" route and we end up with watered down semblence of pollution control. If anything passes at all, they're talking about dropping the "cap" part entirely.
    Ah - so now we've gone from "GOP's interference on every single issue of significance" to its stance on probably the least most significant issue in the OP - reducing greenhouse emissions. It is true that Republicans aren't fans of Cap and Trade, but is also true that the Dems couldn't agree on Cap and Trade among themselves. Further - it's also true that had the proposed legislation passed, we still would be at odds with Europe on that issue (in line with the "expectations too high" comment from the admin).

    Now.. how about the real issues of significance at the G20. Obama's insistence that the world "stay the course" on economic stimulus. What about trade reform?

    How is the GOP to blame in reference to Sarkozy's recent remark:
    Obama does not come from the same tradition as his predecessors. He is interested in Asia and Russia, not Europe. There is no sense of a privileged relationship. They seem to take us for granted sometimes.

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    Re: Europe Warns Obama: This Relationship Is Not Working

    Id say, a lot of this critism against Obama is because people expect so much better from him, than they did the previous president and many current world leaders. As well as that, people are feeling such stress about the economic crisis etc, and such hope about what Obama can do that the slightest disappointment or delay is paniced about, out of proportion.

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    Re: Europe Warns Obama: This Relationship Is Not Working

    I dont trust a word Fox news says.

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    Re: Europe Warns Obama: This Relationship Is Not Working

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dane View Post
    I dont trust a word Fox news says.
    Then I guess Obama was never elected president.

    *do do do do do . . . the twilight zone*

    You can't trust *any* 24/7 news source - doesn't matter who - they're all full of crap and pay more attention to ratings than they do facts.
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    Re: Europe Warns Obama: This Relationship Is Not Working

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    He's not Sarah Palin?
    She ran for VP just like Biden. You really think that guy is better?

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    Re: Europe Warns Obama: This Relationship Is Not Working

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Cap and Trade - GOP goes the "OMG NOT OUR MONEY" route and we end up with watered down semblence of pollution control. If anything passes at all, they're talking about dropping the "cap" part entirely.
    Good our economy can't afford it. It's not the corporations that will pay, it's the consumers who buy their products.

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    Re: Europe Warns Obama: This Relationship Is Not Working

    Quote Originally Posted by Rightwingnutjob View Post
    She ran for VP just like Biden. You really think that guy is better?
    Yes. He's not a mor-...
    Well, at leats he doesn't say things that a reallly stup-...
    It's not like he embarasses the Dem-...

    His political philosophy is closer to mine?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Europe Warns Obama: This Relationship Is Not Working

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dane View Post
    I dont trust a word Fox news says.
    That's plain ignorant. Many of the articles on Fox news are from the AP. Crawl back under your rock now.

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