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    Re: Catholics angry as church puts female ordination on par with sex abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Well - both of those things sound quite prejudice, don't they?

    Most women hear "You cannot do ___ because you are a female" and connect that to misogyny, sexism, chauvinism or prejudice.

    If God/Jesus/whoever decided that men and women were or were not allowed to do same things because of their gender - then isn't that differential treatment, negatively?
    Is there anything *in* the catholic church that women can do and men cannot?

    Anytime someone holds your natural-born condition against you it is at least one of those things. If someone was born with a physical ailment or mental disorder - and then the Catholic Church said "because you were born mentally inept we cannot permit you to ___" then wouldn't an accusation of being prejudice, then, be accurate and understood?

    What if it was a race issue - and Jesus openly spoke out against race (which he doesn't, sure) but what if he did? It might be 'per the religion' but would it be acceptable?
    Well, I don't know. Do you think the priesthood should include the mentally inept?

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    Re: Catholics angry as church puts female ordination on par with sex abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Then why do the other Christian sects allow female ministers and such?
    God created mankind with free will. The ability to choose good or evil. The freedom to choose God or not. Otherwise, how could love be genuine if there was never a choice?

    It seems to me there are some 20 plus Churches that make up, the Roman Communion of Catholic Churches.

    Just like each State has its own set of laws, so do the 20 plus churches have their own set of Canons.

    You are free to do so....



    I left the catholic church over 20 years ago,
    Again, your choice, sport

    so the "all of a sudden" tripe you spew has no mertit in fact. Don't pretend to know me.

    As far as "feigned outrage" I don't think you actually know what that means.
    My advice is to get some kind of counseling.

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    Re: Catholics angry as church puts female ordination on par with sex abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    My advice is to get some kind of counseling.
    I need counseling because you don't know what feigned outrage is or what "all of a sudden" would require?
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    Re: Catholics angry as church puts female ordination on par with sex abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I need counseling because you don't know what feigned outrage is or what "all of a sudden" would require?

    HOLY ****! This is the craziest stuff I've ever read!

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    Re: Catholics angry as church puts female ordination on par with sex abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    My advice is to get some kind of counseling.
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    Re: Catholics angry as church puts female ordination on par with sex abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    I will try and ignore the immature personal attacks made against the Catholic religion. I am a Catholic, and whether or not you agree is your business, but hateful remarks are not welcomed.

    There are two primary reasons why the Catholic Church holds this position, and it is not about repressing women or any type of misogyny.
    1. Jesus did not ordain any women as apostles. A common response to this is that it would be against the culture of his time to do so, but that argument doesn't really make sense considering he associated with pretty much everyone his society rejected.
    2. The sacrament of holy orders into the priesthood requires ordained priests to act in the person of Christ, and Jesus Christ was male.

    Men and woman are equal in the eyes of God, but this equality is not synonymous with sameness.
    What of Mary of Magdala?

    She is considered by a rising number of theologians and also average Catholics to be, as St Augustine claimed, the Apostle of the Apostles.
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    Re: Catholics angry as church puts female ordination on par with sex abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    She is considered by a rising number of theologians and also average Catholics to be, as St Augustine claimed, the Apostle of the Apostles.
    That's a very good point, probably the best argument if favor of female ordination. The trick in convincing the Church.

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    Re: Catholics angry as church puts female ordination on par with sex abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    What of Mary of Magdala?

    She is considered by a rising number of theologians and also average Catholics to be, as St Augustine claimed, the Apostle of the Apostles.
    This is what I also say to be true, and I also think she might have married Jeuse as well.

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    Re: Catholics angry as church puts female ordination on par with sex abuse

    Couldn't Jesus be "Jesus" without the penis? His penis didn't perform miracles that I'm aware of.
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    Re: Catholics angry as church puts female ordination on par with sex abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Couldn't Jesus be "Jesus" without the penis? His penis didn't perform miracles that I'm aware of.
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