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    Re: Argentine Senate backs bill legalising gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    As PeteEU said, marriage is a legal institution. The definition of marriage as a union between man and woman is a religious definition only.
    It morphed into a legal institution because of the implications associated with raising children, and the consequences of divorce as it related to children and property. Never was it meant to formalize two dudes wanting to play house.

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    Re: Argentine Senate backs bill legalising gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    It morphed into a legal institution because of the implications associated with raising children, and the consequences of divorce as it related to children and property. Never was it meant to formalize two dudes wanting to play house.
    That is not my point. My point is, marriage exists outside of religion, therefore the definition of it being a "union between a man and a woman" doesn't neccessarily ring true for all marriages (just because religions defined it as such). The definition of marriage outside of religion is made by the law makers, and here, they have made there choice.

    IMO in this day and age it is wrong to discriminate the distribution of rights when obtaining a paticular status just because of the sexual nature of the people in question. That is called discrimination for something they can't change, like somebody cannot change the colour of there skin. This is seperatism in a different form.

    It may be acceptable inside the walls of the church, but what happens outside of it, religious definitions have no right to dedicate the terms of marriage.

    If a Church refuses to wed a gay couple, then thats fine. But done tell me they ruin the institution of marriage.
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    Re: Argentine Senate backs bill legalising gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    It morphed into a legal institution because of the implications associated with raising children, and the consequences of divorce as it related to children and property. Never was it meant to formalize two dudes wanting to play house.
    You're dismissing the love between two people as "playing house." Are you married? What would you think if somebody described your relationship that way?
    And who cares what some bible-thumpers think it was "meant" to do? The same book that tells them to hate gay people tells them that eating shrimp is an equally grave sin.
    Marriage was meant to be a legal contract that facilitates the transfer of property, a category in which the woman involved was included. Should we go back to that?
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    Re: Argentine Senate backs bill legalising gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Never was it meant to formalize two dudes wanting to play house.
    That is simply your opinion, and you are welcome to it. However, the fact remains that gay parents have can raise children just fine. I would wager to say (of course my opinion) that gay parents are in a position to raise children better than single parents.

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    Re: Argentine Senate backs bill legalising gay marriage

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    That is simply your opinion, and you are welcome to it. However, the fact remains that gay parents have can raise children just fine. I would wager to say (of course my opinion) that gay parents are in a position to raise children better than single parents.
    Why do you think that?
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    Re: Argentine Senate backs bill legalising gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Why do you think that?
    Ideally NextEra is right. 2 parents are better then one aren't they? Financially they would be depending on circumstance.

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    Re: Argentine Senate backs bill legalising gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Ideally NextEra is right. 2 parents are better then one aren't they? Financially they would be depending on circumstance.
    There are two parents involved in a straight family too. I dont get it?
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    Re: Argentine Senate backs bill legalising gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    There are two parents involved in a straight family too. I dont get it?
    My comparison was between TWO gay parents and single Parents. In my eyes, ideally, two parents raising kids is better for the child than a single parent in ideal conditions. That includes two straight or two gay parents.

    That's not to say single parents are bad or can't raise children, just that I think it is better if there are two parents is all. One situation being better does not make the other situation bad. And of course this is all just my opinion and I am not suggesting any legal matters based on my opinion.

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    Re: Argentine Senate backs bill legalising gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    There are two parents involved in a straight family too. I dont get it?
    He said gay couples provide a more stable home than single parents, not straight families.

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    Re: Argentine Senate backs bill legalising gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    He said gay couples provide a more stable home than single parents, not straight families.


    I read single as straight. And yeah TheNextArea, your obviously right. I used to be against it because i thought that a loss of balance of man/women influence in the household is damaging - but there is no evidence to suggest that and you can even study single parent children - and even if there WAS a negative effect on children with a loss of male/female influences, you would have to ban single parent households too!
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