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    Re: Black Tea Partiers Rebut NAACP

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggae_6 View Post

    Racists vote like everyone else. By not repudiating some of the racist demonstrators, they are saying "come on in." "We want you with us." Yes, the Tea Party is courting the racist vote. If they were to say racism is wrong and we do not support any members who would make racist posters or statements, those people would disappear. By not simply stating that racism is wrong, the Tea Party is saying loud and clear that they want the racists with them.
    I call BS. If every single political ideology group and party wants to renouce racism, fine. Racism is one of those things that may be wrong, but it's not illegal, and excluding racists from one group is no different from excluding them from another group. When Democrats and Republics start denying racists their right to participate, come and we'll talk again.
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    Oh, I rather think Democrats and Republicans have crossed over that Rubicon and condemned racism as wrong. The NAACP is just pointing to the all too well known cases over the past year and saying Tea Party, you too must cross over to this side of truth and justice.
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    Re: Black Tea Partiers Rebut NAACP

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Oh, I rather think Democrats and Republicans have crossed over that Rubicon and condemned racism as wrong. The NAACP is just pointing to the all too well known cases over the past year and saying Tea Party, you too must cross over to this side of truth and justice.
    The NAACP needs to clean their own house before it starts trying to tell anyone what they need to do. And if people can't figure out that racism is wrong, without being told, and its being condemned by a political party, then they're pretty stupid. This is all a bunch of race-baiting and crybaby behavior.
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    Re: Black Tea Partiers Rebut NAACP

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I call BS. If every single political ideology group and party wants to renouce racism, fine. Racism is one of those things that may be wrong, but it's not illegal, and excluding racists from one group is no different from excluding them from another group. When Democrats and Republics start denying racists their right to participate, come and we'll talk again.
    -Democratic Party 2008 Platform
    We believe in the essential American ideal that we are not constrained by the circumstances of birth but can make of our lives what we will. Unfortunately, for too many, that ideal is not a reality. We have more work to do. Democrats will fight to end discrimination based on race, sex, ethnicity, national origin, language, religion.
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    -Republican Party 2008 Platform
    We consider discrimination based on sex, race, age, religion, creed, disability, or national origin to be immoral, and we will strongly enforce anti-discrimination statutes. We ask all to join us in rejecting the forces of hatred and bigotry and in denouncing all who practice or promote racism, anti-Semitism, ethnic prejudice, or religious intolerance.
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    -Boston's Tea Party Organizers
    At Tea Party Patriots we will continue to condemn the fringe elements of the movement and any expression of racism or bigotry. We sincerely hope that the Obama While House, the NAACP, and the liberal left will follow our lead and do the same in their own ranks. Opinion: On being labeled as 'racist' - Jenny Beth Martin and Mark Meckler - POLITICO.com
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    -Tea Party Protesters in Washington during health care vote
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    The problem we have here is that there are questions regarding who and what the Tea Party people really believe and represent. They claim to be a movement with no leaders so naturally people can do their own thing including act in a racist manner. What document has the Tea Party produced that states their beliefs in governing. For all I know, they may be for electing a king. In Kentucky, Rand Paul, a claimed tea party candidate has stated that he would have actually supported discrimination. Rand Paul Still Defending Racial Discrimination

    PS-Racism by itself is not against the law, but Racist Acts such as discriminating on hiring voting and hate crimes based upon race are against the law. So should I call a BS on your BS?

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    Re: Black Tea Partiers Rebut NAACP

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I am not aware of any political party that doesn't have their share of whackos. But the Tea Party, like the GOP, MUST make a concerted effort to seperate themselves from the fringe elements, the Becksters, the Limbaughnuts, as these people, due to their loud whining, have come to define the right and the truth is, that simply isn't so. It has cost the GOP and conservatives, as a whole, dearly. I do understand, however, why they would be reluctant to chastise this element as it probably makes up 12-20 percent of their voting block. That would be like the democrats standing against their supporters who look upon welfare as an entitlement. Perhaps there should be 3 party's. Democrats, Republicans and outright idiots. The idiots would probably take 12%-20% of the vote and the GOP and the Dems could fight over the other 80%. (Percentage numbers are just speculative on my part.)
    Yeah, that's utter bull****. It's the Democrats and the leftist whackos that continue to attempt to define the tea party, conservatives and republicans based on the actions of a few. I see you're marching proudly in line with the rest of the leftist sheep. It doesn't matter how loudly or often these fringe elements are denounced, the intellectually lazy and dishonest like you will continue to try to pretend they represent everyone on the right.
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    Re: Black Tea Partiers Rebut NAACP

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggae_6 View Post
    -Democratic Party 2008 Platform
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    -Republican Party 2008 Platform


    -Boston's Tea Party Organizers
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    -Tea Party Protesters in Washington during health care vote
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    The problem we have here is that there are questions regarding who and what the Tea Party people really believe and represent. They claim to be a movement with no leaders so naturally people can do their own thing including act in a racist manner. What document has the Tea Party produced that states their beliefs in governing. For all I know, they may be for electing a king. In Kentucky, Rand Paul, a claimed tea party candidate has stated that he would have actually supported discrimination. Rand Paul Still Defending Racial Discrimination

    PS-Racism by itself is not against the law, but Racist Acts such as discriminating on hiring voting and hate crimes based upon race are against the law. So should I call a BS on your BS?
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    Re: Black Tea Partiers Rebut NAACP

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    Re: Black Tea Partiers Rebut NAACP

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggae_6 View Post
    NAACP President Ben Jealous said Thursday that the resolution passed by the group on Wednesday does not call the tea party "racist."

    The resolution the NAACP approved Wednesday at its annual conference in Kansas City, Mo., alleges that the tea party has used racial epithets against President Barack Obama and has verbally and physically abused African-American members of Congress.


    A portion of the resolution does indeed characterize the behavior as “racist,” but Jealous said Thursday during an interview on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that the resolution was not intended to condemn the entire movement as such.



    Read more: NAACP: Never called tea party 'racist' - Andy Barr - POLITICO.com

    There. Better. Now the Tea Party (Aka GOP right) people can say they would be totally against any racist elements in their group. They are, aren't they? Aren't they? Aren't they?
    Can you tell me if the NAACP has ever passed a resolution against any other group for something that was "alleged" to have happened? There is no proof that any congressman had racials slurs directed at him or was spat upon. There is no proof that any tea partier did such a thing. Again, if you didn't read above, there is a 100,000 dollar reward to anyone who can prove it happened. I've seen 4 different camera angles of the "alleged " incident. Nothing happened. Brietbart offered the congressman 100,000 dollar for a charity if he would take a polygraph stating that it did happen. I think the congressman has since retracted his statement yet the media keeps repeating the same lie over and over. The N word was not being shouted. Not once and not 15 times as was stated. The only thing being shouted was KILL THE BILL KILL THE BILL. And no one hocked a loogey at anyone.
    I don't care if the resolution wasn't meant to condemn the entire tea party. There is no proof any of it should be condemned. The whole resolution was brought about to make the Tea Party out to be racist.
    It'd be like the Boy Scouts of American going on national television and demanding the Girl Scouts condemn all their members who said the Boy Scouts had cooties. The girl scouts don't know anyone who said that. It never happened. Do they say OK, we condemn them or no we don't condemn them because it didn't happen or we will condemn it when it happens. No matter what, the seed is planted that maybe the girl scouts think the boy scouts have cooties.
    Another thing, why didn't the NAACP make a resolution to get SEIU to condemn it's members who beat up a black conservative? Oh, I know, because that black man was just an Uncle Tom, House Negro, or a traitor to his race. Besides, they are democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Can you tell me if the NAACP has ever passed a resolution against any other group for something that was "alleged" to have happened? There is no proof that any congressman had racials slurs directed at him or was spat upon. There is no proof that any tea partier did such a thing. Again, if you didn't read above, there is a 100,000 dollar reward to anyone who can prove it happened. I've seen 4 different camera angles of the "alleged " incident. Nothing happened. Brietbart offered the congressman 100,000 dollar for a charity if he would take a polygraph stating that it did happen. I think the congressman has since retracted his statement yet the media keeps repeating the same lie over and over. The N word was not being shouted. Not once and not 15 times as was stated. The only thing being shouted was KILL THE BILL KILL THE BILL. And no one hocked a loogey at anyone.
    I don't care if the resolution wasn't meant to condemn the entire tea party. There is no proof any of it should be condemned. The whole resolution was brought about to make the Tea Party out to be racist.
    It'd be like the Boy Scouts of American going on national television and demanding the Girl Scouts condemn all their members who said the Boy Scouts had cooties. The girl scouts don't know anyone who said that. It never happened. Do they say OK, we condemn them or no we don't condemn them because it didn't happen or we will condemn it when it happens. No matter what, the seed is planted that maybe the girl scouts think the boy scouts have cooties.
    Another thing, why didn't the NAACP make a resolution to get SEIU to condemn it's members who beat up a black conservative? Oh, I know, because that black man was just an Uncle Tom, House Negro, or a traitor to his race. Besides, they are democrats.
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    Re: Black Tea Partiers Rebut NAACP

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Can you tell me if the NAACP has ever passed a resolution against any other group for something that was "alleged" to have happened? There is no proof that any congressman had racials slurs directed at him or was spat upon. There is no proof that any tea partier did such a thing. Again, if you didn't read above, there is a 100,000 dollar reward to anyone who can prove it happened. I've seen 4 different camera angles of the "alleged " incident. Nothing happened. Brietbart offered the congressman 100,000 dollar for a charity if he would take a polygraph stating that it did happen. I think the congressman has since retracted his statement yet the media keeps repeating the same lie over and over. The N word was not being shouted. Not once and not 15 times as was stated. The only thing being shouted was KILL THE BILL KILL THE BILL. And no one hocked a loogey at anyone.
    I don't care if the resolution wasn't meant to condemn the entire tea party. There is no proof any of it should be condemned. The whole resolution was brought about to make the Tea Party out to be racist.
    It'd be like the Boy Scouts of American going on national television and demanding the Girl Scouts condemn all their members who said the Boy Scouts had cooties. The girl scouts don't know anyone who said that. It never happened. Do they say OK, we condemn them or no we don't condemn them because it didn't happen or we will condemn it when it happens. No matter what, the seed is planted that maybe the girl scouts think the boy scouts have cooties.
    Another thing, why didn't the NAACP make a resolution to get SEIU to condemn it's members who beat up a black conservative? Oh, I know, because that black man was just an Uncle Tom, House Negro, or a traitor to his race. Besides, they are democrats.

    As long as you can basically project what you think people are doing, you can push anything into your own belief system. Jealous says that the Tea Party movement is not racist. You say he is saying that the Tea Party movement is racist. The press reported people yelling nigger and faggot. You say that nobody ever said that because there is no proof and that you know they were only saying kill the bill.

    If you fear that people will believe that the Tea Party movement is racist, the easiest way they can rebuke this is repeating the same thing the Tea Party people in Boston did. Say that they reject racism, period. Much like the GOP and Democratic Parties have done in their own platforms. People who are defensive about doing that may be more worried about losing members who do not want to reject racist acts.

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