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    Re: N.J. top court rules police must explain DWI test laws in native language

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    @ Mr. Vicchio -- I agree with the court's decision.

    @ Ryrinea -- One doesn't have to have a national language to think it ought to be a requirement that people at least read English before they drive. That's not a Conservative bent. That's just good old common sense.
    gotta disagree.....people need to WORK, and sometimes that involves driving.

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    Re: N.J. top court rules police must explain DWI test laws in native language

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    And why did this person even HAVE a NJ DL? Why because he was allowed to take the test in...


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    The TEST SHOULD BE IN ENGLISH. That way the Police, if they need to stop you, can communicate with you. End of Story.
    agree with you it's a bad ruling, disagree that the test should be in english. the article states the the prosecutor argued that the defendant gave implied consent when he took that test and was informed of the law.

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    Re: N.J. top court rules police must explain DWI test laws in native language

    @ LibLady -- I agree that it's a hardship. Personally, when I'm on the road, I'd like to think that the drivers around me can read the same road sign/instructions that I can. "Bridge Out" comes to mind. ;-) I personally would not drive in a non-English-speaking country for that very reason.

    I also think it's more than an inconvenience not to be able to speak the language of the country one is living in. It can be dangerous. Depending on the country.
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    Re: N.J. top court rules police must explain DWI test laws in native language

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    gotta disagree.....people need to WORK, and sometimes that involves driving.
    Then if he is driving on the roads he should be able to read the words on the permanent and temporary traffic signs, comprehend an officer or a telecast if they're giving him information or direction, and respond to officers if asked a question.

    Driving is not a right, no one is garaunteed the ability to drive regardless if its to "work" or not. You should absolutely have to pass the test in English when everything that revolves around our commute...from the traffic symbols to the interaction with those enforcing its laws...functions in English.

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    Re: N.J. top court rules police must explain DWI test laws in native language

    So in NJ, you can plea bargain Murder but not DUI, but if you can't speak the language, you can get it thrown out?


    Ridiculous.
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    Re: N.J. top court rules police must explain DWI test laws in native language

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Then if he is driving on the roads he should be able to read the words on the permanent and temporary traffic signs, comprehend an officer or a telecast if they're giving him information or direction, and respond to officers if asked a question.

    Driving is not a right, no one is garaunteed the ability to drive regardless if its to "work" or not. You should absolutely have to pass the test in English when everything that revolves around our commute...from the traffic symbols to the interaction with those enforcing its laws...functions in English.
    it's highly possible that he understands traffic signs. that's not so difficult, and it's why so many of them are now symbols. i don't have an issue with him driving, (sober) in fact, i would probably rather have an adult latino with limited english skills driving than a teenager.

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    Re: N.J. top court rules police must explain DWI test laws in native language

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So in NJ, you can plea bargain Murder but not DUI, but if you can't speak the language, you can get it thrown out?


    Ridiculous.
    um, no, from the article:

    Marquez's conviction for the driving while intoxicated charge was upheld.

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    Re: N.J. top court rules police must explain DWI test laws in native language

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    um, no, from the article:



    COntradicts:


    In a 4-3 decision, the court overturned a conviction for refusing to take an alcohol breath test because the man, who spoke only Spanish, did not understand the consequences.
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    Re: N.J. top court rules police must explain DWI test laws in native language

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    COntradicts:
    Read that again and maybe you'll see how "conviction for refusing to take an alcohol breath test" and "conviction for the driving while intoxicated" are two different convictions? Go ahead, take your time.

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    Re: N.J. top court rules police must explain DWI test laws in native language

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Read that again and maybe you'll see how "conviction for refusing to take an alcohol breath test" and "conviction for the driving while intoxicated" are two different convictions? Go ahead, take your time.


    I live in jersey. "Refusal" carries the same penalties or more and is considered a DUI conviction. You can be charged with both, its usually however one or the other. If he refuses and they throw out the case, as stated in the op, then they can't go back and charge with DUI as there is no evidence of DUI unless he was charged with DUI and had witnesses etc. which is very very rare because the conviction rate is next to nill in that scenario.


    If the article says he was convicted of a DUI, but had a refusal thrown out, it's not accurate or it's missing key information.
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